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Disinformatsya: How Liberal Media Attempts To Demoralize America
The Bulletin ^ | 12/13/2007 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 12/13/2007 11:18:37 AM PST by William Tell 2

There is a disputed quote, attributed to North Vietnamese General Võ Nguyên Giáp, which states the American military would have won the Vietnam War were it not for the efforts of the American media to demoralize the nation. Giap purportedly wrote, "What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. ... We were ready to surrender! ... We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields."

While this quote is disputed, it is quite plausible. During the Vietnam War the liberal media anxiously reported sensationalized - and false - stories of atrocities by American troops.

Unfortunately, they got away with it then. This time it is different. This time the new media stopped them.

Recently, the esteemed magazine The New Republic (TNR) published ---

Read the full piece here

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=19112039&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=623508&rfi=6


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; enemedia; fifthcolumn; iraq; liberal; liberalism; liberalmedia; media; mediatraitors; msm; procommunist; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 12/13/2007 11:18:39 AM PST by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=19112039&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=623508&rfi=6
2 posted on 12/13/2007 11:23:12 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: William Tell 2

The traitors in Vietnam weren’t afraid that we’d never win, they wanted the Communists to win and were decidedly PRO-Communist. Not just for Vietnam, they wanted US to go Communist too.

Jane Fonda was quite public with her Red Dreams.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 11:25:36 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: William Tell 2

They are succeeding.


4 posted on 12/13/2007 11:27:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: William Tell 2

The media is full of marxists. They want to destroy this country.


5 posted on 12/13/2007 11:27:45 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: William Tell 2

How is it even posib le t ocharacterize the entire mass media as “liberal” when it is owned and controlled by only 5 corporations, and those corporations are owned and controlled by the so-called “establishment”.

The American mainstream mass media is the mouthpiece for the establishment, and the false dichotomy of liberal versus conservative media, is merely a front the etablishment puts up to make us believe the fairy tale that there is still choice in America. It is also a manifestation of the “divide and conquer” strategy that the establishment uses to mislead and control the rest of us who are blind, deaf, dumb, and/or willfully ignorant enough to continue buying into it.

There is no “liberal” media. There is no “conservative” media. There is the media, and it is controlled by a very small handfull of the world’s richest people, who make into whatever suits them and their purposes, from one day to the next.

The Republicans and Democrats do NOT represent two opposing political ideologies. They are two sides to the same coin, and than coin is deep in the pocket of their owners, the same poeople who own and control the media so as to give their fgake political parties a platform from which to bamboozle and disinform the public into making choices that are not choices at all, but foregone conclusions, no matter which party is allowed to “dominate”.


6 posted on 12/13/2007 11:34:33 AM PST by RJB (Abolition of the income tax is an end run by Bush to minimize or prevent impending exposure.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Leftism and rightism are both illusions bought into by people of very limited thinking and observational skills.


7 posted on 12/13/2007 11:34:38 AM PST by RJB (Abolition of the income tax is an end run by Bush to minimize or prevent impending exposure.)
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To: William Tell 2

Victory at Any Cost: The Genius of Viet Nam’s Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap (The Warriors) (Paperback)
by Cecil B. Currey (Author)

I think that this is the source of the quote.


8 posted on 12/13/2007 11:39:37 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Yeah however there are those who claim he never said that and since I could not find an original document I said it was disputed.

Then again Bogie never said play it again sam and it is still a great movie.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 11:41:09 AM PST by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2
In the Que Son Valley in Vietnam one day my unit found a North Vietnamese Army supply cache inside a cave. Among the rifles and ammo and mortar rounds there were a couple of bales of brand new University of California Berkeley sweatshirts which featured the school logo. I used to see antiwar pamphlets, in English and printed in the U.S., left along the main trails for us to find.
10 posted on 12/13/2007 11:48:21 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: William Tell 2

If we ever go to war again, our military command should go to the Congress and just say.....”OK....if we do this, we do it our way. The minute you get involved, we come home. The minute the media trys to make us look bad, we come home. The minute you try and make our Commander in Chief look bad, we come home.” One thing for sure, if the military doesn’t want to fight, there is no war.


11 posted on 12/13/2007 11:50:58 AM PST by RC2
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To: RJB
Leftism and rightism are both illusions bought into by people of very limited thinking and observational skills.

Well, yes...but pointing out the puppet show on a site known for such deeply held emotional opinions isn't going to win you any brownie points. ;)

12 posted on 12/13/2007 11:51:32 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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How is it even posib le t ocharacterize the entire mass media as “liberal” when it is owned and controlled by only 5 corporations, and those corporations are owned and controlled by the so-called “establishment”.

The obvious leftist editorial policies and practices of the Drive-By Media is independent of their corporate ownership. It makes no sense to cite consolidation of ownership as contraindicating the reality of blatant media bias.

Corporations are generally amoral and lacking in political ideology. They are interested in return on investment, that is all.

13 posted on 12/13/2007 11:53:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: RJB
The American mainstream mass media is the mouthpiece for the establishment, and the false dichotomy of liberal versus conservative media, is merely a front the etablishment puts up to make us believe the fairy tale that there is still choice in America...

DING DING DING!!! we have a winner!

14 posted on 12/13/2007 12:00:32 PM PST by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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To: Jeff Chandler

contraindicating = contradicting

[brain fart]


15 posted on 12/13/2007 12:03:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: RJB
The American mainstream mass media is the mouthpiece for the establishment, and the false dichotomy of liberal versus conservative media, is merely a front the etablishment puts up to make us believe the fairy tale that there is still choice in America.

The "Establishment" covets our precious bodily fluids. Down with the Establishment.

16 posted on 12/13/2007 12:05:05 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: RJB

Leftism and rightism are both illusions bought into by people of very limited thinking and observational skills.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Did you or did you not just summarize all the writings of Ayn Rand in one sentence?


17 posted on 12/13/2007 12:11:38 PM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: RJB

So you do not have a philosophy ?

Just what do you think leftism and rightism are code words for ?

You think that Ayn Rand and Karl Marx hold the same beliefs ?

I suggest that you are projecting the illusion of your thinking ability onto others.


18 posted on 12/13/2007 12:21:47 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: RipSawyer

Strictly speaking, Fascism is only considered to be “on the right” by those far on the left.

It explains the collaboration between Mussolini and Stalin.

Ayn Rand is not a centrist :)


19 posted on 12/13/2007 12:24:43 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Are there any photos of this? Would you be willing to provide a statement about this? Exact location, dates times unit etc Anybody with you to corroborate?


20 posted on 12/13/2007 12:35:47 PM PST by William Tell 2
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