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Mike Huckabee's Speech on Foreign Policy ("This Administration's bunker mentality")
The Council on Foreign Relations ^ | September 28, 2007 | Mike Huckabee

Posted on 12/12/2007 11:36:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Kurt Evans
"As a supporter of Governor Huckabee, I wouldn’t mind seeing criticisms of the actual substance of the speech. Does anyone here have any?"

Well, take this passage:

"Because of our special relationship with Britain and all our similarities with them, most Americans don’t realize that it is very different to be a Muslim citizen of Britain than a Muslim citizen of the United States, so we have trouble accepting that doctors in Britain become terrorists. We have to understand that while educated Muslims in Europe may not be materially deprived, many of them feel socially and emotionally deprived by a lack of acceptance. Earlier this month we saw the arrest of German citizens plotting a terror attack against American targets there."

Well, here's some criticism: he's telling us quite outright that European Muslim terrorists get that way because our native Euro cousins haven't given them a hug. What naivety!

What does Huck attribute the as motive for American-born terrorists like Jose Padilla? Johnny Walker Lindh? The Beltway Snipers? (spit!) Our fatty diet?

This is the same mentality that led the Huckster to release violent prisoners to go out and ruin more innocent lives, and is the same mentality that leads him to want to do stupid things like close Gitmo. The man is a mush-headed fool.

21 posted on 12/13/2007 12:26:26 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"My goal in the Muslim world is to correctly calibrate a course between maintaining stability and promoting democracy."

Tried and true US foreign policy - Open markets via State Department. Maintain stability using via Pentagon.

22 posted on 12/13/2007 12:34:23 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: WOSG
It looks like you beat my analysis with similar critizism by 10 minutes. Good job.

(In my defense, I was surfing the web looking up the proper spelling for Padilla, Lindh, and naivety....)

23 posted on 12/13/2007 12:35:45 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Aria

“What exactly makes you support Huckabee?”

The other candidates have all made bigger mistakes than he has.

“Which policies?”

The first three that come to mind are his support for a Marriage Protection Amendment, his support for a Human Life Amendment, and his support for the Fair Tax.


24 posted on 12/13/2007 12:35:54 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Yossarian
"This is the same mentality that led the Huckster to release violent prisoners to go out and ruin more innocent lives, and is the same mentality that leads him to want to do stupid things like close Gitmo. The man is a mush-headed fool."

It is, in its simple yet ugliest essence, that which comprises Compassionate Conservatism, which was played out in Arkansas.

It can be released onto the international stage in foreign policy, of which the results can and will--knowing the nature of the world we live in and the realities of our adversaries--quite necessarily be DISASTROUS.

But, I guess if Jesus wills it and we go on faith, we will be O.K...../sarc

25 posted on 12/13/2007 12:36:42 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Yossarian
Liberals decry the concept of assimilating into a “melting pot” of American culture, in favor of a Multicultural “tossed salad” - slang for...
26 posted on 12/13/2007 12:43:30 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Yossarian
Well, here's some criticism: he's telling us quite outright that European Muslim terrorists get that way because our native Euro cousins haven't given them a hug. What naivety!

He hasn't been in England recently and hung out with the regular folks. I have. Go to Hyde park and see if your kid can play in the playground. The answer is, on most days it is filled with 10 Burkhas and 60 muslim kids. My boy went in to play and was able to get three of the other boys started playing--he's really good at that. At which point a Burkha would whisk over, grab the other boy by the arm and haul him away. Three out of three.

It ain't because they haven't been hugged. It's because they have no desire to be hugged. Instead, they want to rule.

27 posted on 12/13/2007 12:44:12 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
At which point a Burkha would whisk over, grab the other boy by the arm and haul him away. Three out of three.

Sad. I'll never understand Muslim women, 'till the day I die.

It is quite frustrating for me on another level too: I'm single, and Persian girls are hot!

28 posted on 12/13/2007 12:47:37 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Kurt Evans
“What exactly makes you support Huckabee?” The other candidates have all made bigger mistakes than he has.

He's from a small state is all. Yet his tax hikes are bigger than any of the other contenders. Nobody in the GOP field is a bigger taxhiker than Mike Huckabee. NOBODY.

The first three that come to mind are his support for a Marriage Protection Amendment, his support for a Human Life Amendment, and his support for the Fair Tax.

NONE of which will happen on his watch. Look I like these things too, but substantively, he's a tax-and-spender so FairTax is a gimmick ... Boy, you sure got reeled in but GOOD. How big's the hook in your gullet?

29 posted on 12/13/2007 12:47:41 AM PST by WOSG
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To: Yossarian
It is quite frustrating for me on another level too: I'm single, and Persian girls are hot

Being a happily married man, I officially have no opinion on that subject. In fact, the subject had never even occurred to me until you mentioned it at which time I formed no opinion :)

30 posted on 12/13/2007 12:53:06 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is, in its simple yet ugliest essence, that which comprises Compassionate Conservatism, which was played out in Arkansas.

Bush's version of "Compassionate Conservatism" - social conservatism mixed with open borders and proliferate spending - was bad enough.

Huckabee's version of "Compassionate Conservatism" is pro-life & pro-guns, but otherwise plain gives away the farm on all other fronts!

31 posted on 12/13/2007 12:53:22 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup, he reminds me of the kind of politician that the MSM will say once he gets to Washington “he has really grown in office”, i.e., sell-out of conservative principles.


32 posted on 12/13/2007 12:55:07 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: WOSG
OTOH, Huckabee's been reading dKos.

I doubt it.

33 posted on 12/13/2007 12:57:33 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: Roy Tucker
We are getting that "Bush and Condi have really grown" exegia from the liberals nowadays (reluctantly, under their breaths) with respect to their new embracing of essentially 1999 Clinton/Albright principles of engagement with Communist North Korea.

With Huck, they will say he is "plug and play", just ready to go!

34 posted on 12/13/2007 1:05:41 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: HAL9000
Face it. Entrenched STATE DEPARTMENT career types are going to LOVE THIS GUY.

35 posted on 12/13/2007 1:07:30 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Face it. Entrenched STATE DEPARTMENT career types are going to LOVE THIS GUY.

A few weeks ago, Huckabee said that the Palestinian homelands should be in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. It would be interesting to see how the career types would react to that policy.

36 posted on 12/13/2007 1:15:18 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

Let’s ask them.


37 posted on 12/13/2007 1:23:41 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Wonder who wrote this for him?”

Very good question......then again, he probably did


38 posted on 12/13/2007 1:44:27 AM PST by depenzz (I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders. (Ted Nugent))
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To: Kurt Evans
The first three that come to mind are his support for a Marriage Protection Amendment, his support for a Human Life Amendment, and his support for the Fair Tax.

Under the present congress none of these three would even get voted out of committee in the Senate. Even if sincerely held views, they are meaningless.

The constitutional amendment proposals serve only to make voters feel good, while actually doing nothing substantive about the problems.

39 posted on 12/13/2007 2:02:31 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We don’t merely tolerate diversity, we embrace and celebrate it.

This, from a man who actively--even gleefully--seeks to marginalize and demonize his fellow citizens (the most rock-solid conservatives on the planet) who are members of the LDS Church.

Beyond that, this entire screed sounds like Huckabee is channeling Neville Chamberlain. He's essentially saying, "Yes, Islamofascists are bad people, but we can learn to get along with them if we just open our Christian hearts to understanding them."

I suffered through four years of Carter fecklessness and weakness that proceeded from the same mindset. I am loathe to see America repeat that mistake.

40 posted on 12/13/2007 2:19:02 AM PST by JCEccles
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