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To: reasonisfaith
The only point of contention here is that of self preservation.

How is the outcome of the Iraq war and self preservation related in any meaningful way? Yes if we pull out now and Iraq goes to hell in a handbasket that will tend to make things in the US less secure, but it will not result in the immediate anhiliation of the US.

Ron Paul is an incompetent nut because he is unable to recognize the need for self defense.

All that I read says that Ron Paul is one of the strongest defenders of the Second Amendment and our right to self defense. On this particular point I agree with him. I suppose that makes me a loony too.

122 posted on 12/11/2007 5:15:43 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You know exactly what I mean. The Iraq war is all about self preservation and Ron Paul cannot understand that.

You know very well I wouldn’t say such a thing about 2nd Amendment supporters. (I support it more than you do—how about that?)

Your comments are like the fox caught in a trap, who out of vanity tries to distract attention from the fact that he is indeed caught.


125 posted on 12/11/2007 5:22:12 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
How is the outcome of the Iraq war and self preservation related in any meaningful way? Yes if we pull out now and Iraq goes to hell in a handbasket that will tend to make things in the US less secure, but it will not result in the immediate anhiliation of the US.

Your logic escapes me. Why would you knowingly let the US be less secure? Just because the military might be big and expensive and libertarianism says that govt. should be small? Are you into self-flagellation?

All that I read says that Ron Paul is one of the strongest defenders of the Second Amendment and our right to self defense.

Ha! What a laugher! Too bad that "self-defense" doesn't include a forward front defense strategy so the battlefield is located far from our shores.

149 posted on 12/12/2007 7:55:22 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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