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To: who_would_fardels_bear
How is the outcome of the Iraq war and self preservation related in any meaningful way? Yes if we pull out now and Iraq goes to hell in a handbasket that will tend to make things in the US less secure, but it will not result in the immediate anhiliation of the US.

Your logic escapes me. Why would you knowingly let the US be less secure? Just because the military might be big and expensive and libertarianism says that govt. should be small? Are you into self-flagellation?

All that I read says that Ron Paul is one of the strongest defenders of the Second Amendment and our right to self defense.

Ha! What a laugher! Too bad that "self-defense" doesn't include a forward front defense strategy so the battlefield is located far from our shores.

149 posted on 12/12/2007 7:55:22 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
"Why would you knowingly let the US be less secure?"

How do you know for sure that pulling out of Iraq would make us less secure?

The world is a very complicated place and anything we do will lead to some benefits and some drawbacks.

If we were to take all of the money we are currently spending in Iraq and use it for border security, stepped up monitoring of ports, increased scrutiny of bank transfers and international phone/internet communications, increased scrutiny of potential sleeper cells in America and Europe, etc. then we might be more secure by pulling out of Iraq.

People of good faith disagree on this point and calling them loonies because they don't agree with you is completely useless and non-productive.

165 posted on 12/12/2007 4:45:37 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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