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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“the outcome of the Iraq war is so important as to trump all other considerations, is like ...
Such a position is by definition lunatic.”

“If you disagree with where Ron Paul ends up, it is most likely because you disagree with the starting principles, which is a valid point of contention.”

The only point of contention here is that of self preservation. Of all ideological positions, self preservation is farther from lunatic than any other, absolutely.

Ron Paul is an incompetent nut because he is unable to recognize the need for self defense.


113 posted on 12/11/2007 4:47:48 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: reasonisfaith
The only point of contention here is that of self preservation.

How is the outcome of the Iraq war and self preservation related in any meaningful way? Yes if we pull out now and Iraq goes to hell in a handbasket that will tend to make things in the US less secure, but it will not result in the immediate anhiliation of the US.

Ron Paul is an incompetent nut because he is unable to recognize the need for self defense.

All that I read says that Ron Paul is one of the strongest defenders of the Second Amendment and our right to self defense. On this particular point I agree with him. I suppose that makes me a loony too.

122 posted on 12/11/2007 5:15:43 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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