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To: april15Bendovr
Ron Paul is a solid real-world libertarian.

No he is not conservative, he is not liberal, he is not a socialist, and he is not a traitor to the USofA.

I would have thought by now that all but the dimmest newbies would know what a libertarian is and what their opinions would be.

There is no need to argue with libertarians. All one needs to do is understand where they come from and agree or disagree.

Why should a guy who believes in the least amount of government necessary all of a sudden change his mind to support a bloated military just because somehow a bloated military appeals to the majority of Freepers?

I am not a libertarian and I have serious disagreements with Ron Paul and his supporters.

But they are not silly or loony or traitors. They are merely restating valid opinions that have been stated throughout hundreds, if not thousands, of years of recorded history.

It makes more sense to say something like this:

Arguing with someone who believes that the outcome of the Iraq war is so important as to trump all other considerations, is like ...

Such a position is by definition lunatic. And yet it seems to be the position of the majority of Freepers.

If you understand the basic principles of libertarianism, and you follow those to their logical conclusions you will end up deducing most, if not all, of the Ron Paul platform. If you disagree with where Ron Paul ends up, it is most likely because you disagree with the starting principles, which is a valid point of contention.

However, there is no political philosophy, theology, or system of rational thought ever devised that places the result of the Iraq war above all other considerations.

And yet that is what most Freepers do.

Some people need to look in the mirror.

Bad news is they may see Bob.

112 posted on 12/11/2007 4:39:07 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“the outcome of the Iraq war is so important as to trump all other considerations, is like ...
Such a position is by definition lunatic.”

“If you disagree with where Ron Paul ends up, it is most likely because you disagree with the starting principles, which is a valid point of contention.”

The only point of contention here is that of self preservation. Of all ideological positions, self preservation is farther from lunatic than any other, absolutely.

Ron Paul is an incompetent nut because he is unable to recognize the need for self defense.


113 posted on 12/11/2007 4:47:48 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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