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Drill Instructor Says He Followed Example (trial of Sgts. Brian Wendel and Robert Hankins)
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Dec 11, 2007 | Steve Liewer

Posted on 12/11/2007 8:14:01 AM PST by RDTF

SAN DIEGO – A former drill instructor convicted of maltreating recruits testified yeterday that he modeled his behavior on the conduct of his counterparts at the Marine Corps' boot camp in San Diego.

Last month, a military jury sentenced Sgt. Jerrod Glass to six months in the brig and demoted him to the lowest enlisted rank. Two drill instructors who worked with him to oversee Platoon 2167, Sgts. Brian Wendel and Robert Hankins, have been charged in the same case.

Wendel's trial began yesterday at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego. He is charged with 17 counts of misconduct involving seven charges, including assault, maltreatment, violation of orders and destruction of property.

Before the jury panel was seated, Glass testified he saw Wendel and other drill instructors “tap” recruits in the face with flashlights and push them through doors. He said such actions, which allegedly took place between October 2006 and February 2007, violated standard operating procedures that restrict drill instructors' rights to touch recruits.

“I know the letter of the law from the SOPs,” Glass testified. “But I know from my experience . . . that it's not always the way things are done.”

Glass also said Wendel and other drill instructors skirted rules limiting “incentive training” – a Marine term for punishing recruits with push-ups and other exercises – to eight minutes. They did so, Glass said, by stringing together punishments or conducting longer sessions indoors, where supervising officers would be unlikely to see them.

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The jury in Wendel's case, though, won't hear most of Glass' allegations. The military judge, Maj. Brian Kasprzyk, granted the defense's request to bar the testimony because none of the charges against Wendel deal with the accusations Glass made. Kasprzyk said hearing the testimony might prejudice jurors.

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To: RDTF

At first glance it looks like PC creeping in. But a drill instructor isn’t just this harsh bully figure, the flip side is that the health and safety of the recruits are absolutely his responsibility. I have no sympathy if he violated that responsibility.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 9:13:18 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: oh8eleven
First day at Parris Island, our Senior DI held up the folder with the SOP, said "This is what we can and cannot do to you." and then threw this in the GI can.

We knew we were in trouble then!

However, the first time I was shot at in Vietnam, my reflexes, trained by all the "mistreatment" from my DIs, put me on the ground BEFORE my ears interpreted the sound of the shots. I was ready to sign my next paycheck over to my DIs.

"He who sweats much in peace bleeds least in war!"

22 posted on 12/11/2007 9:16:18 AM PST by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Freedom bears a savor the protected will never know. Lima 3/26 RVN)
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To: RDTF

We told our marine son about this and he replied, I didn’t know there was any way it was illegal to abuse a marine.


23 posted on 12/11/2007 9:18:16 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: RDTF

24 posted on 12/11/2007 9:20:15 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: antiRepublicrat; xzins
But a drill instructor isn’t just this harsh bully figure, the flip side is that the health and safety of the recruits are absolutely his responsibility. I have no sympathy if he violated that responsibility.

I don't know too much about the specifics of this case, but I do know that the military is trying to re-calibrate basic training in ways to cut down wash-outs due to preventable injuries. Sports medicine has made major advances in the past 20 years, and the military would be foolhardy not to take advantage of those lessons.

25 posted on 12/11/2007 9:23:56 AM PST by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: tlj18

12 years ago, in Navy boot camp, we experianced the phenomenon of “making it rain”. This meant wearing most of our uniforms all at once, i.e. tshirts, dungarees, sweatsuit, sweater, gloves, hat, etc. Then we exercised until condensation began to form on the ceiling and windows.
Good times.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 9:35:22 AM PST by SteelCurtain_SSN720 (If you pass the rabid child, say "hammer down" for me)
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To: Liaison
STUPIDITY! If you know its wrong, and you follow the lead of a person acting illegally, You got to jail!

That was incredibly stupid to tell the jury "yeah, I know it was wrong, but that's how it's done". I'm not saying it's stupid he told the truth (in fact it's good that he did tell the truth), just that it's stupid that it happened in the first place.
27 posted on 12/11/2007 10:10:28 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: SteelCurtain_SSN720

Sweet great lakes rain!


28 posted on 12/11/2007 10:25:34 AM PST by BOATSNM8
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To: SteelCurtain_SSN720

I’ve heard stories about that...


29 posted on 12/11/2007 10:29:05 AM PST by tlj18 (Keep your eye on China, they are our #1 enemy....)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Well said!


30 posted on 12/11/2007 10:32:54 AM PST by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: jude24; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Sports Medicine Ping


31 posted on 12/11/2007 9:20:54 PM PST by freema
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To: purpleraine

I get your drift, but a recruit is not a Marine


32 posted on 12/11/2007 9:47:45 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Oh no!!
Say it isn’t true...

God help this formerly great nation.


33 posted on 12/11/2007 9:50:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The scumbag lawyers are intent on helping their Democrat party destroy the country. If only we had a Commander-in-Chief with a clue and the stones to address some of this over-lawyered military crap.


34 posted on 12/11/2007 9:55:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RDTF
First off, let me just say that I went through the same alleged "abuses" (and worse) during basic training at Ft. Knox. This was after the introduction of the "kinder, gentler" Army and yet I still never thought it was out of line.

That being said, no matter how ridiculous particular rules may seem, a Non-Commissioned Officer can not be excused from intentionally disregarding them. NCO's- and especially drill instructors- are supposed to serve as an example of military discipline.

An NCO who expects obedience and attention to detail, while openly flouting military regulations himself, is standing on shaky ground. In my experience, hypocrisy of this kind is often a sure fire way to create brooding resentment and low morale among the lower ranks.

35 posted on 12/11/2007 10:16:52 PM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: RDTF

Before everyone starts losing their minds and pulling out the “Old Corps” cliches just remember one thing, these so so called new soft Marines upheld the reputation of the Corps at Fallujia, on the march to Baghdad, in Afgahanistan, and continue to do so now. These fine young Marnes are just as damn tough as the Marines at Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Chosin Resivior, and Khe San. These kids are no different now than they were in Chesty’s day. The Old Corps, New Corps argument is hogwash.

Semper Fi


36 posted on 12/12/2007 5:13:59 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327

Spot on!

Semper Fidelis,
fontman


37 posted on 12/12/2007 6:07:14 AM PST by fontman
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To: StarCMC

Well J**** C*****... This is the MARINE CORPS these wimps are joining, not a country club! If they don’t want hardship, physical and mental challenges, and yes, pain, then GO THE H*** SOMEWHERE ELSE! When I, as a US citizen, “send in the Marines” I want to be sending in the meanest, most focused, and most capable bunch of bad-a**** this world has ever seen. I do not want to be sending in a bunch of PC panty-waists that are afraid to get some cuts, bruises, and break a sweat. Where is it going to end? “Gee Sarg, can I get another latte from the mess?” The wimps bringing the charges had better stay away from any real Marines, then again, maybe they need some remedial education...


38 posted on 12/12/2007 6:36:54 AM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: StarCMC
See #9

The root of the problem at the Depot.

"..a PC Marine Corp?"

Looks like it already is.

39 posted on 12/12/2007 6:45:00 AM PST by Designer
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To: stylin19a

I would seem abusing a recruit would be truth in advertising. LOL!


40 posted on 12/12/2007 7:03:36 AM PST by purpleraine
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