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Study says humans not heating up the planet
One News Now ^ | December 11, 2007 | Jim Brown

Posted on 12/11/2007 6:46:22 AM PST by Between the Lines

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Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:



Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:


This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

From the European Space Agency: ERS altimeter survey shows growth of Greenland Ice Sheet interior:

Greenland ice-sheet elevation change in cm/year (see colour scale) derived from 11 years of ERS-1/ERS-2 satellite altimeter data, 1992-2003, excluding some ice-sheet marginal areas (white). +5.4 cm/year, or ~5 cm/year when corrected for bedrock uplift.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 7:04:41 AM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: P-Marlowe

***Great.

Now what am I gonna do with all that fertile farm land I just purchased in Manitoba?***

Fortify it.


22 posted on 12/11/2007 7:05:37 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Between the Lines
BULL@!(*#@

Fred Singer's college room mate's brother worked as a clerk at a Exxon Mobil Mini-mart so he is obviously on the take

23 posted on 12/11/2007 7:06:06 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Theo

Of course CO2 isn’t a pollutant, it is a necessity for survival. However, just because it isn’t a pollutant doesn’t mean that high levels of it aren’t harmful.

Water isn’t a poison either. But, if you drink too much of it, you will die.

CO2 in the atmosphere in very high levels is not a good thing. Whether it causes all the things some scientists say is up for debate, as is the question of what is causing the high levels, and whether anything can be done about it. The fact that it can be harmful in high levels is not.


24 posted on 12/11/2007 7:08:57 AM PST by ga medic
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To: Between the Lines

http://www.junkscience.com/ and http://home.austarnet.com.au/yours/Greenhouse_bullcrap.htm


25 posted on 12/11/2007 7:09:41 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Between the Lines

CO2 is PLANT FOOD.

And the Earth is a self-regulating system: more CO2 means more alge and other plants, converting CO2 into O2 - which we need.

Funny how “environmentalists” are so quick to think they can control the environment and so quick to screw around with a system that worked just fine without them for a very long time.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 7:10:14 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Between the Lines

BTTT


27 posted on 12/11/2007 7:11:57 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: DBrow

Only global socialism with the elites like Algore in charge can save the planet -

otherwise, we’re DOOMED, DOOMED I TELL YA!


28 posted on 12/11/2007 7:12:18 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ga medic

Ever seen this site?

http://www.dhmo.org

A non-profit organization dedicated to the research of the poison DiHydrogen Monoxide.


29 posted on 12/11/2007 7:13:56 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Between the Lines

Sounds like a consensus on settled science to me.


30 posted on 12/11/2007 7:14:50 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Geology professors predict a future ice age is coming someday.


31 posted on 12/11/2007 7:16:49 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Between the Lines

bttt


32 posted on 12/11/2007 7:16:57 AM PST by clyde asbury (Please continue your petty bickering. I find it amusing.)
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To: Between the Lines
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant.

New Peer-Reviewed Study Finds ‘Warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence’

By EPW Blog Monday, December 10, 2007

An inconvenient new peer-reviewed study published in the December 2007 issue of the International Journal of Climatology.

Climate warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence:
Climate scientists at the University of Rochester, the University of Alabama, and the University of Virginia report that observed patterns of temperature changes (‘fingerprints’) over the last thirty years are not in accord with what greenhouse models predict and can better be explained by natural factors, such as solar variability. Therefore, climate change is ‘unstoppable’ and cannot be affected or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

These results are in conflict with the conclusions of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and also with some recent research publications based on essentially the same data. However, they are supported by the results of the US-sponsored Climate Change Science Program (CCSP).

The report is published in the December 2007 issue of the International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651]. The authors are Prof. David H. Douglass (Univ. of Rochester), Prof. John R. Christy (Univ. of Alabama), Benjamin D. Pearson (graduate student), and Prof. S. Fred Singer (Univ. of Virginia).

The fundamental question is whether the observed warming is natural or anthropogenic (human-caused). Lead author David Douglass said: “The observed pattern of warming, comparing surface and atmospheric temperature trends, does not show the characteristic fingerprint associated with greenhouse warming. The inescapable conclusion is that the human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming.”

Co-author John Christy said: “Satellite data and independent balloon data agree that atmospheric warming trends do not exceed those of the surface. Greenhouse models, on the other hand, demand that atmospheric trend values be 2-3 times greater. We have good reason, therefore, to believe that current climate models greatly overestimate the effects of greenhouse gases. Satellite observations suggest that GH models ignore negative feedbacks, produced by clouds and by water vapor, that diminish the warming effects of carbon dioxide.”

Co-author S. Fred Singer said: “The current warming trend is simply part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been seen in ice cores, deep-sea sediments, stalagmites, etc., and published in hundreds of papers in peer-reviewed journals. The mechanism for producing such cyclical climate changes is still under discussion; but they are most likely caused by variations in the solar wind and associated magnetic fields that affect the flux of cosmic rays incident on the earth’s atmosphere. In turn, such cosmic rays are believed to influence cloudiness and thereby control the amount of sunlight reaching the earth’s surface and thus the climate.” Our research demonstrates that the ongoing rise of atmospheric CO2 has only a minor influence on climate change. We must conclude, therefore, that attempts to control CO2 emissions are ineffective and pointless. – but very costly.

Now on the web at http://science-sepp.blogspot.com/2007/12/press-release-dec-10-2007.html
Contact: Dr S Fred Singer, President, SEPP singer@SEPP.org 703-920-2744

33 posted on 12/11/2007 7:22:20 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: ga medic

“The fact that it can be harmful in high levels is not.”

Do you have any scientific evidence to present on how high a level of CO2 may be harmful in some way? Or just a free floating sense of anxiety?

No one doubts that if the Earth’s atmosphere had nothing but CO2 we would all asphyxiate. Of course plants will take in the CO2 and emit oxygen, so there’s apparently no danger of that happening. There is also the crackpot theory that too much CO2 in the atmosphere causes extreme global warming. Is there any other danger you’d care to bring to our attention? I’m sure we are all eager to be truly educated by well-founded facts.


34 posted on 12/11/2007 7:25:37 AM PST by devere
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To: MrB
“Only global socialism with the elites like Algore in charge can save the planet -”

Consensus! Consensus! No disagreement, no dissent across Earth!

35 posted on 12/11/2007 7:26:02 AM PST by DBrow
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The Grant Nazi says “No more grants for you!”


36 posted on 12/11/2007 7:27:37 AM PST by polymuser (In the twinkling of an eye...)
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To: MrB

Yeah, I have. It is something one of my high schoolers science teachers did, to impress upon them how important it was to be knowledgeable about science. It worked for my kids, and they love science.

Not sure whether many adults would fall for it or not, but apparently most of the high schoolers did.


37 posted on 12/11/2007 7:28:24 AM PST by ga medic
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To: Between the Lines

The dems are going after Bush (who else) for not promoting the idea of man caused GW. How about the libs and their butt buddies in the MSM ignoring/suppressing these stories?


38 posted on 12/11/2007 7:29:43 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Between the Lines

Fred Singer has been doing the Lord’s work for years now.

I encourage FReepers to look into his findings.


39 posted on 12/11/2007 7:29:48 AM PST by sauropod (Welcome to O'Malleyland. What's in your wallet?)
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To: ga medic

I’m definitely going to incorporate it into my homeschooling as a lesson.

The problem is going to be that I’ll be tempted to spring it on them too soon.


40 posted on 12/11/2007 7:30:19 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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