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Plane Crash: When a Plane Drops from the Sky
LawyersandSettlements.com ^ | December 8, 2007 | Gordon Gibb

Posted on 12/10/2007 3:55:09 PM PST by billorites

Augusta, GA: A plane crash that took 10 lives in October probably could have been prevented if alleged known faults inherent with the plane had been addressed prior to the fateful flight.

Two lawsuits have been launched in recent weeks at the behest of the families of two skydivers killed in the October 7th airplane crash that left no survivors. A party of nine skydivers was returning from a sky diving event in Star, Idaho when the plane went down in rugged terrain west of Yakima, in the Cascade Mountains. The pilot was also killed, and there were no survivors in the plane crash.

At issue is an aircraft that is allegedly at the center of controversy, not to mention pre-existing litigation. The Cessna 208B Grand Caravan is just that: a people mover of the skies and similar to a cargo airship. Alleged problems with the plane's stall warning system and pneumatic de-icing system contributed to the crash, according to lawsuits filed on behalf of skydiver Bryan Jones of Redmond, and Andrew Smith of Lake Stevens, and their families. Both men were killed in the airplane crash. Both lawsuits were filed in US District Court Seattle.

According to the lead lawyer in the Jones lawsuit, the Cessna Grand Caravan could be likened to an "ice magnet" and the aircraft should never have been certified for flight in icy conditions. Seattle lawyer Dean Brett goes further, accusing Cessna of faking data in a bid to see the plane certified for cold weather flight.

For its part the manufacturer, while refusing to comment in the face of pending litigation, did indicate through a spokesperson that the aircraft was approved for flight into known icing conditions by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) provided the aircraft was operated according to the approved pilot handbook.

The stalemate will be debated in the courts, and several times over as it turns out, given the number of similar lawsuits naming Cessna Co. and the 208B following similar crashes of the aircraft in Russia, Canada and throughout the US. These latest lawsuits were represent other lawsuits involving the Cessna aircraft, and a de-icing system manufactured by Goodrich Corp.

The skydivers were from Skydive Snohomish and were experienced skydivers. Ironically, their demise was not due to skydiving, but rather the simple act of commuting.

While plane crashes can result in loss of life, the risk can be perpetuated when that plane crashes into populated areas. Akin to a motor vehicle that is not guaranteed to break down where it is convenient to pull over, a problem in the air does not always choose a remote area to emerge. Images of small planes crashing into apartment building balconies, or coming down in the midst of a busy soccer pitch are all too common.

And this past Wednesday fate would bring a small plane down on top of The Congregation Children of Israel Synagogue in Augusta, Georgia. While young at 19, the pilot was licensed and a valued employee with Phoenix Air of Cartersville, GA. Ron Baker was piloting a single-engine Piper Arrow from Charleston, South Carolina to Cartersville GA when, according to reports, the pilot reported a problem with the engine.

There were 10 people in the Synagogue when the plane crashed into the building, killing the promising young pilot instantly. Luckily the worshippers were opposite the portion of the building that took the direct hit from the airplane crash.

Reports suggest the plane involved was an older model Piper Arrow. People at the scene maintain it was a miracle more people were not hurt, or killed.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambulancechasers; aviation; bloodinthewater; lawyers; leeches; legalremoras; parasites; planecrash; tortturds
"according to reports, the pilot reported a problem with the engine."

I smell a tort.

1 posted on 12/10/2007 3:55:10 PM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
Scumbag lawyers.

They've made flying light airplanes ridiculously expensive.

ML/NJ

2 posted on 12/10/2007 4:10:27 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
"Scumbag lawyers."

"They've made flying light airplanes ridiculously expensive."

True enough.

On the other hand, they tend to take really hot chicks as their second wives who like to show off tons of cleavage.

So, a net wash I suppose...

3 posted on 12/10/2007 4:38:07 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
The pilot had not filed a IFR flight plan and was attempting VFR flight into very bad conditions. He was IFR rated, and was supposedly current. There were icing conditions. This is 100 percent pilot error.

My only wish would be that the plane had been full of Lawyers instead of skydivers - sad.

4 posted on 12/10/2007 5:16:40 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: stubernx98
Haven’t had any experience with icing in any Cessna except a 310 but a small amount of rime ice all accumulated on the top of the leading edge and severely reduced the lift of the wing.

In my Saratoga i’ve had 3 of rime ice and it all accumulated eight on the leading edge not hurting the lift, just adding weight.

5 posted on 12/10/2007 5:33:40 PM PST by dalereed
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To: billorites

“...they tend to take really hot chicks as their second wives...”

You ever think of auditioning for “Boston Legal”?


6 posted on 12/10/2007 5:35:41 PM PST by beelzepug ("Smith & Wesson - don't leave home without it.")
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To: dalereed
I currently have a 310, and got it in ice one time over the Rockies. It was fairly benign, picked up about 1” of rime. Made a quick IFR decent into Butte MT.

Pretty hard to encounter ice unless IFR, unless it is freezing rain - very bad. At least it doesn’t distort the airfoil as much.

7 posted on 12/10/2007 5:59:11 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: dighton; aculeus

The author allegedly writes like alleged cr@p, leaving no survivors ping.


8 posted on 12/10/2007 6:18:28 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: stubernx98

Several outfits fly Caravans all over Alaska - and we have some iceing conditions from time ot time. I cannot recall any pranging in.

Shame really, the company pays for pilot error or not.


9 posted on 12/10/2007 6:24:33 PM PST by ASOC
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To: Ezekiel; AnnaZ; Billthedrill; AnAmericanMother

Alleged ping to alleged connoisseurs of the truly allegedly awful.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 6:28:02 PM PST by dighton
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To: billorites

It sounds like the pilot flew a heavily loaded aircraft into icing conditions. Airplanes that are certified for flight in icing conditions are meant to be flown out of the icing conditions ASAP. If you can’t fly out of icing quickly, you’re going to crash no matter what you’re flying.


11 posted on 12/10/2007 6:31:55 PM PST by poindexter
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To: billorites
Total horse hockey.

The 208 Caravan is a grand old workhorse of an airplane. It's probably almost as reliable as a DC-3, and I can't say much better than that.

This sounds like 100 percent pilot error + lawyers looking for payday in the form of a quick settlement.

12 posted on 12/10/2007 6:41:06 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: dalereed
I hate taking commercial flights when they make a stop at the deicing machine. Happened a lot at the Buffalo Airport. One time we had to go back 3 times and do it.

Hey, I'm here. Guess it works.

But as just a passanger it does not make you feel good.

13 posted on 12/10/2007 6:51:17 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: stubernx98
I was IFR in the Las Vegas area and it was just before Reagan fired the controllers, they were the most obnoxious in the country I think, and were pretty close to gross and the AH wouldn’t let us down to a lower altitude, it was pretty dicey for about 20 minutes.
14 posted on 12/10/2007 7:13:53 PM PST by dalereed
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