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Proposal Would Let Immigrants Apply To Be Police Officers (Major Barf Alert)
nbc4.com ^ | December 10, 2007

Posted on 12/10/2007 3:49:41 PM PST by khnyny

ROCKVILLE, Md. -- The agency that oversees training and hiring standards for police departments in Maryland is looking at a proposal that would let noncitizens with green cards become police officers.

The proposal is being championed by Montgomery County Police Chief Thomas Manger. He said it doesn't make sense that legal immigrants can join the U.S. military but can't become law enforcement officers.

The Maryland Police Training Commission could vote on the issue next month.

Critics said it would be difficult to check the backgrounds of noncitizens applying to be officers, and they said the proposal could allow terrorists to infiltrate police agencies.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Maryland; War on Terror
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To: khnyny

The left really wants to eliminate the idea of national identity. They would like it if anyone were able to walk into the USA and immediately vote, get welfare, get free health care (that’s what “Universal Health Care” is really about).

That would effectively eliminate White Christians of European background. That would suit the left just fine.


61 posted on 12/11/2007 1:00:26 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Give this a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ


62 posted on 12/11/2007 1:05:20 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: khnyny
It’s not anecdotal information. We are in a war and the enemy is finding our weak underbelly. Don’t be so naive.

So, what's your point? Should we be restricting the rights of naturalized citizens?

Of course, we should be vigilant in conducting rigorous background checks of police officers and others in positions of public trust, but to take the example of a couple of naturalized citizens who slipped through the cracks and draw conclusions about all naturalized citizens/permanent residents is, i think, unreasonable.

63 posted on 12/11/2007 1:12:51 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The left really wants to eliminate the idea of national identity. They would like it if anyone were able to walk into the USA and immediately vote, get welfare, get free health care (that’s what “Universal Health Care” is really about).

That would effectively eliminate White Christians of European background. That would suit the left just fine.

I agree, but what does that have to do with this? This story is talking about legal permanent residents. Not people who "walked into the USA" and immediately voted/got welfare/etc. We're talking about people who complied with all of the proper immigration laws and procedures, received legal permanent resident status (just a step away from citizenship) and now want to serve their new communities as police officers.

64 posted on 12/11/2007 1:14:58 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Ditto.
Too many people like to blur the lines of legal and illegal immigrants and make this whole argument an anti-immigration argument.


65 posted on 12/11/2007 1:21:23 PM PST by mnehring
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To: khnyny
It’s not anecdotal information. We are in a war and the enemy is finding our weak underbelly. Don’t be so naive.

LOL. You don't understand the word "anecdotal."

So what should we do? Ban all LPRs from joining the military? Deport them?

66 posted on 12/11/2007 1:48:20 PM PST by kabar
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To: khnyny

Most “LEGAL” immigrants like myself eventually become US citizens. I served in US Customs when I became a citizen. I think we need to distinguish between “legal” and “illegal” immigrants.


67 posted on 12/11/2007 2:08:31 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: khnyny

Montgomery County. Not surprised.

Must be the most screwed up county in the US. And I spent most of my life in Mass.!


68 posted on 12/11/2007 2:09:57 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: khnyny
Why not just out source the jobs to south america
69 posted on 12/11/2007 2:12:59 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kabar
LOL. You don't understand the word "anecdotal." So what should we do? Ban all LPRs from joining the military? Deport them?

I knew exactly what you meant. I had a post-graduate reading level by the time I was 9.

This is the meaning you used in your post: 3. based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation: anecdotal evidence.

As to the rest, no, not at all. Right now, non-citizens with green cards can be members of the military, but are restricted as to the types of positions they can actually perform. They are not elegible for security clearances.
70 posted on 12/11/2007 4:46:08 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: Cacique

I have no problem with legal immigration and, like I’ve said before in previous posts, have friends from all over the world who came to this country legally.

The discussion here is whether local police jurisdictions should employ non-citizens as police officers. Personally, I think it’s a bad idea for a whole host of reasons.


71 posted on 12/11/2007 4:51:20 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: kabar

BTW, there’s no need to be condescending when you reply to a post. I know it’s difficult to resist, living in NVA (which I suspect you do), but you really should try to rise above the rest of your neighbors.:)


72 posted on 12/11/2007 4:59:20 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

BTW, don’t lecture me. Yes, I do live in NoVA. McLean to be exact. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder.


73 posted on 12/11/2007 5:54:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: khnyny
I knew exactly what you meant. I had a post-graduate reading level by the time I was 9.

LOL.

As to the rest, no, not at all. Right now, non-citizens with green cards can be members of the military, but are restricted as to the types of positions they can actually perform. They are not elegible [sic] for security clearances.

If you have no objection to LPRs serving in the military, why raise the story about the "Marine Corp Officer (suspected Hezbollah spy) who had a sham marriage to get her green card?" I am having a hard time understanding your point. What are your specific objections to LPRs serving in the police department?

74 posted on 12/11/2007 6:07:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
BTW, don’t lecture me. Yes, I do live in NoVA. McLean to be exact. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder.

LOL. Too funny. Knew it. "McLean to be exact" - hilarious.
75 posted on 12/11/2007 6:11:03 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

Sounds like you have a NoVA envy complex.


76 posted on 12/11/2007 6:12:30 PM PST by kabar
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To: TexasRedeye
"Errrr, immigrants with “green cards” are defending all of us in Iraq!"

Don't you think there are important differences between military and law enforcement?

Your argument is empty it seems. It is illogical to state that non-citizens should be cops just because non-citizens serve in the military.
77 posted on 12/11/2007 6:17:38 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: kabar
Sounds like you have a NoVA envy complex.

LOL. I was waiting for that. Boy are you just too easy. It's not "envy complex", it's called being perceptive. I live in Old Town Alexandria, which last time I checked, is in NoVA. That's one of my residences, anyway. Thanks for the entertainment. No hard feelings I hope.:)
78 posted on 12/11/2007 6:18:25 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: molette67

I think you are right


79 posted on 12/11/2007 6:36:06 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: joseph20
Your argument is empty it seems. It is illogical to state that non-citizens should be cops just because non-citizens serve in the military.

So it is ok it they protect your sorry a$$ here at home by being military police rounding up errant GIs but they can't be "regular" police! Talk about illogical? Come back out from under your rock when you are awake!

80 posted on 12/12/2007 4:55:59 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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