'TAKE THIS NATION BACK FOR CHRIST'
Posted on 12/10/2007 8:09:56 AM PST by JRochelle
Government may have dropped the ball in modern American society, but religion dropped it first, Gov. Mike Huckabee told Southern Baptist pastors Sunday night. "The reason we have so much government is because we have so much broken humanity," he said. "And the reason we have so much broken humanity is because sin reigns in the hearts and lives of human beings instead of the Savior." Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, addressed his contemporaries at the two-day Pastors' Conference, which continues today. The three-day Southern Baptist Convention begins Tuesday here in the heartland of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the city in which the Mormons have their world headquarters. Huckabee told the pastors gathered in the Salt Palace Convention Center that while the March 1, 1997, tornadoes which struck Arkansas were tragic, at least the devastation could be clearly seen from a helicopter. In contrast, he said, the catalysts for the nation's recent school shootings -- including the one March 24 near Jonesboro that left four students and a teacher dead and 10 others wounded -- were harder to see but were driven by "the winds of spiritual change in a nation that has forgotten its God."
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However, if you are expecting the politics to be a religious experience, then you are mistaken.
I think it’s pretty damned accurate.
There. That’s better. Lovitz is a good comparison, Gomer Pyle is better.
Exactly. Things that a clergyman could and should say doesn’t mean a President should say them.
The God-less and purposeless secular society we have created directly contributed to the deaths of those children. Don’t you find it odd that things like this didn’t occur in US schools before God was forcibly expelled?
No God >>leads to>> no hope >>leads to>> desperation.
“There is good and evil. Sometimes evil wins.”
I’m sorry, but this sounds more like Dualism than Christianity.
God gave us free will. Therein lies the battle. Those boys who shot those children chose evil.
Well done!
Odds are the person who did that was very familiar with God.
He just chose evil.
BTW, the biggest slaughter of schoolchildren happened in the 1920’s.
Well that tears it.
You have to consider a couple of things about the article..
First of all, this statement/article of Huckabee was from 3-4yrs BEFORE the events of 9/11.
Secondly, how can you say its BS?
Let me clarify my position:
-Populist like Clinton
-Slow-witted, aw-shucks like Jimmah and Gomer Pyle
-wears religion on sleeve like Carter and Robertson
bttt
Uh oh. I guess they will find it now. :O)
I hope you don’t mind as I am going to put Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa view regarding religion and politics.
http://reformedchicksblabbing.blogspot.com/2007/09/sen-chuck-grassley-christian-title-has.html
Friday, September 14, 2007
Sen. Chuck Grassley: “Christian” Title has Hurt GOP
More importantly it has hurt Christianity:
Republican senator scheduled to speak at next year’s New Baptist Covenant Celebration in Atlanta told a community newspaper in Iowa that positioning the party as the “Christian” choice has been detrimental to the GOP.
“That does turn some people off,” Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said in an interview with the Sioux County Index-Reporter. Grassley said he prefers to describe the party in a different way.
“I believe in the big-tent approach,” he said. “We ought to be open to anybody who shares our conservative economic, political and social views.”
Asked if ethical scandals like Idaho Sen. Larry Craig’s arrest for disorderly conduct in an airport men’s room diminish the GOP’s “Christian” identity, Grassley sought to distinguish between the two.
“I believe that a person can vote for whatever reason he wants to, and I think that on certain issues, it’s better to vote the Republican Party,” he said. “But I believe that you can make those arguments without using the religious point of view.”
Republicans should stop using Christians to get elected and Christians should refuse to be used. Christians have become yoked in the eyes of society with men and women who might not share the same beliefs and goals. It makes no sense for Christianity to become associated with one political party because Christ didn’t come to transform society though government but through changed lives lived for his glory. The goal of Christianity isn’t to become one more lobbying group trying to get our agenda passed, our goal is to spread the gospel to a lost and dying world.
Yeah, I know that this isn’t a popular position among Christians and conservatives.
BTW, I’m not saying that Christians shouldn’t be involved in politics, I’m saying that the name of Christs shouldn’t be used to get someone elected.
And then there’s this from the same article:
Grassley is one of two sitting U.S. senators scheduled to speak at the Jan. 30-Feb. 1 New Baptist Covenant Celebration at the Georgia World Congress Center. The other is Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C.
The meeting was announced in January at a press conference featuring former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, flanked by representatives of more than 30 Baptist organizations involved in planning. Clinton and Carter are also scheduled speakers for the celebration.
A third high-profile Republican, presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, withdrew from his invitation to speak at the gathering to protest comments attributed to Carter that were critical of President Bush. The former Arkansas governor said he had only “tentatively” agreed to participate in the convocation with the understanding it wasn’t political. In pulling out of the commitment Huckabee said the program “does seem to tilt left.”
Even if it “tilts left,” why not go and present your vision for the future? Why not make your case and let the best argument win? It seems very short-sighted to me.
There is also the news making aspect of it if he were bold enough to give a speech about Carter’s failure as a president and how we are still suffering the effects of those failures (Iran).
This paragraph bares repeating:
Republicans should stop using Christians to get elected and Christians should refuse to be used. Christians have become yoked in the eyes of society with men and women who might not share the same beliefs and goals. It makes no sense for Christianity to become associated with one political party because Christ didn’t come to transform society though government but through changed lives lived for his glory. The goal of Christianity isn’t to become one more lobbying group trying to get our agenda passed, our goal is to spread the gospel to a lost and dying world.
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