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To: Regulator
It's nauseating that this happened and that these men lowered themselves to this.

I don't believe any of them lowered themselves by taking part in this debate. Hispanics are a large voting group; some have been here many years, and take their voting privileges seriously because they know it is unique in the world. There are more recent immigrants, who may also be eligible to vote, for whom English is still not easy for them to understand. When one speaks a language most of one's life, and then moves to where a new language is spoken, it's always more easy to understand things in one's native language. No harm in bringing the debate to them; they need to hear what the Republican candidates have to say. Maybe some will realize that their natural values align more with Republicans than with the Democrats who have been courting them.

27 posted on 12/09/2007 9:38:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I don't believe any of them lowered themselves by taking part in this debate

I think it's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life, and I'm over 50, so I've seen a few things. The American nation had nothing to do with Latin America; it developed in total opposition to everything the disgusting Latin countries stood for. Ever heard the phrase "Banana Republic"? That was a light term for the sort of horror shows they really were. And are. Really understand what kind of place Mexico, Cuba, Colombia and Venezuela really are? Ever been there?

Hispanics are a large voting group

No they aren't. In 2004 they were about 6% of the electorate. And that number is the result of giving citizenship to people who have no business being called citizens of the United States in most cases. They vote for people who look and speak like themselves because a) they see it as cultural defeat of the Anglos, who they hate; and b) they think they can use their compatriots to extract money from the hated, but rich, Anglos. You can try all you want to convince me of the opposite, but anyone who's paying attention can see it.

There are more recent immigrants, who may also be eligible to vote, for whom English is still not easy for them to understand

If they're recent, they aren't citizens. To actually go through the process takes years. Most people can learn a language by immersion in a few months, no matter what you've heard. You're making excuses with a fake, improbable situation.

No harm in bringing the debate to them

Yes there is. They just damaged the most important nation on Earth by backing down and acquiescing to the demands of people who have no right to make any demands of the Americans. NONE. These people have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to come to this country and sneer at 400 years of our history by arrogantly refusing to do the most basic duty of newcomers - learn the language. Do you have any idea at all why they don't? BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S AN INSULT.

Maintaining the Spanish language is part of their mindset of colonizing the U.S., and emblematic of their contempt for the Americans. They wouldn't stand for it in their countries - can you point to any Latin American country where such a thing has occurred? If anyone tried there would be blood in the streets, and that's no joke.

You're weak. You think like a woman - "well, why can't we just try to understand them? There must be a good reason".

NO, there isn't. It's a brazen, arrogant attempt at taking control of the landmass of the United States. Only weak fools let that happen. In Spaniard cultures, it's considered completely OK to do that to a weakling - it's his fault for letting it happen, for not "being a man" and standing up for himself. Acting like a woman, it's called -- which is the ultimate insult in that culture.

Get it, yet? That's what's going on here. The Big Men who want to be President are now considered by the hispanics to be cheap whores who will bend to a strong man's will. They are now regarded with contempt by the Latins. They sure as hell wouldn't have done the same thing.

That's the reality, Suzi. Welcome to the 14th century...that's where they live.

And so will your children if you accept this.

39 posted on 12/09/2007 10:24:59 PM PST by Regulator
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