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Ron Paul: Not a panderer
Politico ^ | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 12/09/2007 6:29:04 PM PST by camerakid400

(At Spanish Language Debate)

He just walked into the lion's den by saying we ought to both talk and trade with Castro's Cuba.

Loud boos followed.

He then said our policies propped up the likes of Fidel and Hugo Chavez.

More boos.

And then there was a third round as he finished his statement.

Needless to say, the Ron Paul post-debate party won't be at the Versailles over on Calle Ocho (though the ropa vieja and plantains are superb).


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: booed; gopdebates; hispanicvote; paulbearers; paulestinians; ronpaul; rontards; scampi; univision
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1 posted on 12/09/2007 6:29:07 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400

Not a panderer,,a LOON.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 6:31:16 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: camerakid400

He’s just another anti-American/pro Al-Queda dipshit.


3 posted on 12/09/2007 6:32:17 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: camerakid400
Trade with Cuba means that we’ll invest billions of dollars in the place, then the Cuban government will seize what’s been improved, putting us right back to square one. We’ve been down that road, and repeating a failed experiment is only the hallmark of a liberal - When you find something that doesn’t work, will not work, you move onto something else, unless you’re a liberal, in which case you repeat the experiment, this time using more money.
4 posted on 12/09/2007 6:33:15 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: kingu

At least we can count on the fact that Fidel and his brother will die withing the next 10 or 15 years. We’re better off waiting them out than dealing with them.


5 posted on 12/09/2007 6:35:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: camerakid400

Did the Ron Paul blimp pick him up and scoot him away to Inner Earth with David Icke?


6 posted on 12/09/2007 6:35:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: camerakid400

Are you saying he changed his previous pandering view on immigration?


7 posted on 12/09/2007 6:36:47 PM PST by JLS
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not a panderer

So going on Alex Jones isn't pandering to the truthers?

8 posted on 12/09/2007 6:38:01 PM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: jmyrlefuller

It’s not pandering when you’re cracked in the head enough to beleeeeve it your on self.


9 posted on 12/09/2007 6:40:02 PM PST by GulfBreeze (Support America! Vote for Duncan Hunter!)
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To: LdSentinal

Where would we be today if Paul had been President during the Cuban Missile Crisis...

Oh yeah that’s right, they only wanted missiles to aim at us because we were in their part of the world trying to influence their society...
(/sarc)


10 posted on 12/09/2007 6:40:29 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: camerakid400

Some of you folks forget that we trade with countries that we do not agree with in order to get them to change their ways. By being partners with them, you encourage capitalism.

Take China and Vietnam as an example.


11 posted on 12/09/2007 6:42:16 PM PST by cowtowney
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China is spying on us, selling weapons to our enemies, poisoning us and building a military. I’m not sure what Vietnam is up to at this point.


12 posted on 12/09/2007 6:52:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: cripplecreek

According to the Paulies, what they do is none of our business until they attack us.


13 posted on 12/09/2007 6:56:49 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: camerakid400

The guy I saw downtown spouting an incomprehensible soliloquy wasn’t pandering either. He was just looney.


14 posted on 12/09/2007 7:00:52 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: kingu

We’ve had stiff economic sanctions against Cuba in place for decades. Castro is still in power.

We didn’t have such sanctions against, for example, the Communist regimes of Eastern Europe. Those regimes fell.

On the historical record, I’d have to say that the policy of economic sanctions against Castro hasn’t worked. It just gives him an excuse for any economic problems that he can’t otherwise explain away. Nothing solidifies popular support for a national leader better than an external threat, and we’ve conveniently provided that for him. It might be time for us to try something else.


15 posted on 12/09/2007 7:02:25 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Optimist

Considering the fact that the Chicoms already have the Panama canal and will be getting the port we use in Equador (not to mention Long Beach) I’m sure Paul would be more than happy to give them the gift of Guantanamo bay.


16 posted on 12/09/2007 7:04:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: camerakid400; Petronski; Allegra

I don’t know about pandering but I just got spammed by this ronpaul myspace site: http://www.myspace.com/barbisatin. This site’s “friends” are apparently a collection of transvestites and Jew-haters for Ron Paul.


17 posted on 12/09/2007 7:08:59 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: camerakid400

Neville Chamberlain anyone?


18 posted on 12/09/2007 7:20:01 PM PST by CurlyBill (Democrats: Trying hard to manufacture a loss in Iraq ... all for politics)
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To: Larry Lucido

Well your not alone. After Jackie Mason criticised Paul on his youtube blog (not about Israel), he has been hit with neo-nazi propanda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3ISRUGr90


19 posted on 12/09/2007 7:20:42 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: kingu

You are so right. The Spanish have invested billions in hotels in Cuba. The Castro government uses this as leverage against the Spanish; if the Spanish dare criticize Cuba too much, he would not hesitate to seize it back. Thus the reluctance of the Spanish government to criticize Cuba. And with all this trade going on between Spain and Cuba, the Castro government still has no problem insulting the Spanish government whenever it pleases.


20 posted on 12/09/2007 7:21:06 PM PST by David1
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