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Giuliani Defends Questionable Expenses (For Mistress)
NewsMax ^ | 12/9/07 | AP

Posted on 12/09/2007 4:54:36 PM PST by wagglebee

WASHINGTON -- Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Sunday defended the expenses incurred by his security detail as he was beginning an extramarital affair with current wife Judith Nathan, saying police made the decision after she received threats.

Giuliani in recent weeks has faced a barrage of questions about New York police security costs for his trysts with Nathan and about his business clients, which have included the Persian Gulf country of Qatar. Although a U.S. ally, Qatar is accused of sheltering suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Smiling broadly and laughing at some of the tougher questions put to him on NBC's "Meet the Press," Giuliani did not directly answer when asked why the security expenses were billed to obscure city offices, making their detection more difficult. He responded that the NYPD had deemed the security detail necessary because of threats against him and his loved ones, including Nathan.

"This was all based on threat assessments by the New York city police department, all based on their analysis to protect her life, my life, other people's lives," Giuliani said. "They made the choice. My wife Judith would honestly prefer not to have security."

Records first reported by Politico.com last month showed repeated trips between 1999 and 2002 to Long Island, where Nathan had a condominium. Giuliani's first trip was from Aug. 31 to Sept. 1, 1999 _ months before he acknowledged the breakdown of his second marriage in the spring of 2000.

Security costs for those trips were charged to agencies like the New York City Loft Board, which regulates loft apartments and was billed $34,000. The Office for People with Disabilities was charged $10,000, while the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, which provides lawyers for indigent defendants, was charged roughly $400,000.

Asked whether it would be appropriate for a president to provide taxpayer-funded security for a mistress, Giuliani said it would not. But he said "that isn't the right way to analyze it" in his case.

"The reality is it all came about because of my public position," Giuliani said. "The New York city police department has rules, they apply the rules. They apply it exactly the same way as they always apply it."

"I did not make the judgment. I didn't ask for it. Judith didn't particularly want it," he said. "It was done because they took the view that it was serious and that it had to be done this way."

The decision to do a lengthy, nationally televised interview marked a shift in strategy for Giuliani, similar to those by GOP rival Mitt Romney and Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton as the campaign for president has tightened in both parties. After resisting for months, Romney, a Mormon, relented and gave a speech about his religious faith while Clinton sharpened her criticism of Barack Obama, her closest rival.

Regarding his post-mayoral business dealings, Giuliani has refused to outline his role or identify clients of his firm, Giuliani Partners. In an interview last month with The Associated Press, he said the media have vetted most of his clients but that he can't name them because of confidentiality agreements.

Giuliani had income of $4.1 million from his share in Giuliani Partners and $1.2 million from his law firm between January 2006 and February 2007, according to financial disclosure forms he filed in May.

On Sunday, Giuliani did not deny he was still receiving money from Giuliani Partners, but said he was not involved in the company's day-to-day operations and that he has "severed every tie I can think of."

Releasing a client list was unnecessary, Giuliani said, because "every client of GP of any significance while I was there, while I was involved in the day-to-day operations has been discussed" in the media or other public forums.

"The reality is none of them amount to anything other than ethical, lawful, decent work," he said. "None of them involve any conflict of any kind."

Giuliani also acknowledged errors by not screening former protege Bernard Kerik closely enough before making him city police commissioner in 2000. Kerik, whom Giuliani later recommended unsuccessfully to head the federal Department of Homeland Security, was indicted last month on counts including accusations of lying to the White House and filing false income tax returns. Kerik has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

"I think my judgment on appointments turns out almost always to be very good with unfortunately some mistakes that I have made," Giuliani said. "This is one of them, and I'm really sorry for it and I have learned from it."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; giulianitruthfile; judith; judithnathan; rudygiuliani; stoprudy
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To: festus

LOL


21 posted on 12/10/2007 8:07:01 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Dustoff45

A good & powerful leader knows the cost incurred by his requests, great and petty. Rudy obviously wasn’t concerned with this. He was willing to engage in extremely private activities that meant a lot of people would know and would be obligated to cover not just the activity and the principal, but also every action of everyone on a highly regulated and publicly monitored team. This bodes ill for a prospective leader of the free world.

Consider & compare Gore, guru of environmental protection, jetting his entire entourage around the world to attend the Bali summit (among hundreds of other such trips), thinking he can whisk away any contradictions by verbally authorizing “carbon credits”.

Contrast these yahoos with Bush, Regan, and others who were extremely aware & respectful of their security detail.

A good leader realizes he, too, is merely one of the people - entrusted with the care of others.


22 posted on 12/10/2007 10:59:43 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: ctdonath2

Having done the protection detail, I can agree that much can be learned about their actions in secret. I gained a tremendous respect for my protectee when I was able to witness and an entire, week, month, year with all of the good and bads lumped together. I saw the opportunities offered that were simply and politely rebuffed.

I saw it was show for others, but I had the honor to serve and witness a person of integrity. I had questions about Rudy over some of his social stands. He was a great Federal Prosecutor, but his moral compass points south in some areas and putting his security detail in that position speaks very poorly of his choice. These people are not royalty, and when they start to expect to be treated like such, then it is time to sit them down.


23 posted on 12/12/2007 8:29:55 AM PST by Dustoff45 (A non-posting Freeper produces far fewer spelling errors)
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To: wagglebee

“This was all based on threat assessments by the New York city police department, all based on their analysis to protect her life, my life, other people’s lives,” Giuliani said. “They made the choice. My wife Judith would honestly prefer not to have security.”

Wasn’t the police department under the control of his appointed commisioner, Bernard Kerik?

When will Bernie roll?


24 posted on 12/12/2007 8:35:32 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: wagglebee
"Security costs for those trips were charged to agencies like the New York City Loft Board, which regulates loft apartments and was billed $34,000. The Office for People with Disabilities was charged $10,000, while the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, which provides lawyers for indigent defendants, was charged roughly $400,000."

Almost a half million in bogus charges and only Kerick gets thrown under the subway? Rudy911 sure knows how to cover himself.

25 posted on 12/12/2007 8:42:47 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Old Professer

Of course if this was all legitimate and if it was really the NYPD’s decision, then why did they try to hide the expense in several different city agencies? Why not just bill it all to the NYPD’s budget as personal protection?


26 posted on 12/12/2007 8:42:48 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: azhenfud

See what I wrote in #26.


27 posted on 12/12/2007 8:43:31 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Old Professer
"Wasn’t the police department under the control of his appointed commissioner, Bernard Kerik?"

Yes - and now who was found to have questionable connections of whom Rudy911 says he wish he'd been more diligent in scrutinizing?

28 posted on 12/12/2007 8:46:57 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: wagglebee
(paraphrasing here)

Bill Clinton (ref. Monica) apology speech -- "Presidents have a right to a personal life too".

Rudy Giuliani, (ref. his mistress) --"Mayors have a right to a personal life too".

29 posted on 12/12/2007 8:51:45 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: Dustoff45

Interesting.

Maybe Rudy needs to be asked publicly, “If you tire of your current wife when you are President, what sort of security detail would the taxpayers need to pay for your then misstress(es)?”


30 posted on 12/12/2007 8:52:39 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: stockstrader

Our mayor here in L.A. was doing the #1 Spanish language infobabe — the very one who went on the air and announced that the Mayor was leaving his wife, and a few weeks later confirmed that the mayor was indeed having an affair. She then lost her job and has since dumped him. Povracito mayor...


31 posted on 12/12/2007 8:55:27 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: stockstrader

The only difference between the two is that the Clintons stay married for political reasons.


32 posted on 12/12/2007 8:56:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Sign of the times .... today everybody is aghast and focused on taxpayer dollars going to a “mistress” security.

Hmmm ... maybe just 20 years ago voters would be astounded at a public figure openly admitting a mistress.

Waike up ammmmeeeericaaaaa

The huckster got one thing right ... he called homosexuality what it really is

33 posted on 12/12/2007 9:04:08 AM PST by HiramQuick
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To: HiramQuick
Hmmm ... maybe just 20 years ago voters would be astounded at a public figure openly admitting a mistress.

Exactly!!

No one benefits more from the "CLINTON VACCINE" (personal life, conduct and character no longer matter) than Rudy. No one. Rudy owes Clinton BIG TIME for that one.

34 posted on 12/12/2007 9:07:27 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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