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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

I too have been reading through some of these posts... Very sad... Did you happen to see the posts of his poetry... As you read through you can see it getting darker and darker. He states in one part that he was indeed on medication (Paxil) at one point, but apparently not anymore... He talks about fake friends, etc... etc... Very sad. He also talks about many, many people attempting to help him — suggestions of counseling, changing doctors, changing medications, etc... etc... It seems like he didn’t take their offers of help seriously and fought against all attempts to help him...


1,992 posted on 12/10/2007 10:16:25 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

In another one (the link I just posted above), he claimed to have been on Prozac for 8 months. A lot of sounds like it was just made up for an audience.

Have they shown a picture of him anywhere? Just curious.


2,002 posted on 12/10/2007 10:31:23 PM PST by Rte66
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To: LibertyRocks
Yes, his poetry is really sad and depressing. Here's one titled "Drowning in Despair" that he posted on 8/5/07 and later came back to edit on 11/11:
nghtmrchld26
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Posts: 38
(8/5/07 6:26 pm)
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Drowning in despair you raped the soul from the child in me........

Crying all alone
The tears flowing down my face in a beautiful stream
The lovely misery and lonely darkness surrounding me
As I see everyone going on with their meaningless vain fake lives
All the posers and wannabes
All the abusers

Crying all alone
Cutting myself
High off the pain and darkness
Seeing so many fakers hating me
So many of my friends who have abandoned me
So many spiritual pretenders who failed to help me.
I.m your nightmares come true
You think you can punish me but you fail to see
That I.ve lived through a thousand nightmares
And all your worst Christian fears are coming true

Walking down these hallways
Of mirrors and sadness seeing myself
Crying all alone as everyone takes their turn
Raping all that I am
Cutting myself killing this pain
Someone help me please
I can.t get out and I am slowly dying

Come and sing with me
This beautiful song of sadness and misery
Cutting ourselves
Crying awash in crimson

Come and sing this song.
As we die and leave this miserable life behind
Can you not see the elegant beauty?
Rays of light like gold silk flowing throughout this place
Beautiful tears of crimson streaming down our bodies
Our work is done here, we.re going home
Let us fly away into the dying sunset
Can you not hear this beautiful song?
As all the pain fades away
Taking your last breath
As the blood and pain drains
Leaving everyone........left
To die in their misery and hypocrisy
We.re going home to a beautiful place far away from here

________________________________________________
It's all in your head......it's all in my head.....
I tried...you lied to me for so long.....
Everywhere I go there's a sense of it.......
freak on my antics and give me a choice
Doesn't matter if I give a @#%$..... it's @#%$ that you gave me

Edited by: nghtmrchld26 at: 11/11/07 11:04 pm
nghtmrchld26

Below this, a forum poster sympathizes with him, and he responds with another 20 lines of the same tone as above.

That's followed by more sympathy from other members, followed by him explaining a lot about himself. I'll append that below.

This guy is definitely a suicidal, hate-filled young man, and that's a combination that is dangerous to society. Because they are not content to just take themselves out when they go. They want to take as many along with them as they can in a final blaze of glory, to revel in their hatred and revel in getting blood on their hands. I'm guessing that at some point, too much time spent fantasizing doing violence to real people can lead from fantasy to reality. Seventy years ago, these kinds of people would have had other outlets, such as signing up to be SS death camp guards.

Sorry if I don't sound too sympathetic. I keep pingponging back and forth between sympathy and anger with this Matthew Murray, who went from angry poet to mass murderer one day, and got his big wish to go out in a bloodsoaked blaze of glory.



nghtmrchld26
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Re: Drowning in despair But why care about a world that doesn't care about me anyways? And why go on living in a world that doesn't want me?

Caring never felt so lame inside. There's just no answers.

Everyone has the same unoriginal s*** to say:
"Have you seen a therapist?" "Have you tried medications?"
"Have you tried thinking positive happy thoughts about the world?" "Maybe you should try counseling?" "Maybe you should try to just not be this way" "Just try taking one day at a time work towards your degree in college" "Don't worry, it will all get better"

Guess what? Believe it or not.....I'VE TRIED ALL THAT
People then usually assume that I only tried prozac(or some other drug) for two days and got upset that it didn't "work" and they say "oh well, you need to give it more than a couple of days to work"....I don't know how 8 months is only a few days...but maybe you f***ers who can only come up with lame ass answers need a good ass kicking
These lamers will also say "well maybe try a different therapist?" or "just.......keep trying"

Yeah....that's right, this nightmare terrifies you crack addicts, other people claiming to be depressed, all you people who think you're so depressed over some stupid divorce......you people tell me yourself you're terrified of this kind of depression and of this nightmare. No one has any answers. I've talked to lots of people about this, and they first say "oh well....you couldn't possibly know about REAL depression.....I've been through alcohol and drug addiction, and recently a divorce, my parents kicked me out at age 15, I can't go to college because I don't have money and I have kids to support........etc.....etc......." and then they always say "but I know it's always going to get better and that I have a lot to live for"

Well @#%$.....you're in much better shape and have a lot more hope than I have...... and then I'll tell them "I'm not sure if this is REAL depression....but here's what I'm dealing with and how I'm feeling......"
The response so far is always the same. The person who claimed to have it so much worse than me, is suddenly shaken, and *tranced* out and given a glimpse of The Nightmare that me and my friends have grown up in. This person who first said "oh no honey, not to discount what you're going through but I'm dealing with some dark depressing things a young person like you doesn't understand" is now telling me in a quivering voice...."uh.....that's......pretty dark writing.....and creative too...uh.....have you thought of counsling?" I said "well yeah, didn't really change anything" "well I don't really want to hear about depressing things and..." "But I thought you said you were really depressed?" "yeah...but...honey...I don't know what to tell you about....lets just change the subject"

Sorry but this isn't some pity story of where someone got touched in the wrong place once or twice or where some girl got raped only twice....this is The Nightmare that just goes on and on and me some of my church friends just cannot even fully remember what all happened, much less understand why......

This is also the downward spiral here....no one has any real answers, only lame answers and fear of what me and my friends grew up in, and fear of the depressing aftermath.
On the positive side, that fact that we've survived this long means we're a LOT stronger than most people, especially these lamers who are terrified of my poetry. We're stronger than these pentecostal Youth With A Mission assholes who said "you can't be writing down your feelings, especially not about depression." We've proven that we're a lot stronger than these sick bastards in the charismatic and pentecostal movement.

Welcome to the Nightmare
____________________________________________
You can't kill me because I'm already inside you

2,009 posted on 12/10/2007 10:42:43 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: LibertyRocks

Thanks for filling in those blanks.

Am not surprised a lot of folks tried to help him.

Not surprised he resisted persistently. That makes helping him very, very PROBLEMATIC. One would have to be able to certify in court that he was an IMMINENT DANGER TO HIMSELF OR OTHERS to forcably “help” him. And there’s no guarantee that a hospitalization would help him in many cases.

Not surprised he was on an anti-depressant.

GETTING OFF THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS CAN BE A VERY CRITICAL TIME IN TERMS OF VIOLENCE POTENTIAL.

SOMEONE SHOULD have been monitoring him closely in terms of his compliance with actually taking the drug.


2,076 posted on 12/11/2007 6:35:07 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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