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To: RDTF

Honest. : )

Kiefer Sutherland Biography (Jack Bauer, 24)

Birthday: December 21, 1966

Place of Birth: London, England
His Real Birth Name: Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland

http://tvdramas.about.com/od/24/p/kiefersuther.htm


1,834 posted on 12/10/2007 6:01:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

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1,839 posted on 12/10/2007 6:03:05 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: nicmarlo

she’s on now


1,843 posted on 12/10/2007 6:03:46 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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If the shooter had written threatening letters, I wonder what was done about that, or could/should have been done. One would think from those they would have figured out the possible id of the perp earlier. Those letters from a former student would have been a red flag. How many disgruntled former students might there have been? I don't think many.

As tragic as it was to lose those two young girls in the van in the parking lot, it's a good thing the Ms. Assam took him out at great risk to herself and possibly others. This is the kind of thing you would think the police would rather not have. Once the police arrived, they *could* have made it worse, assessing the situation, set up command and control, may not have wanted to storm the place, looking for an opening, giving him time to take hostages and kill more, don't know what to do with the jammed gun.

Finally, it's good they had their own security there, and I don't know, but maybe they should have alerted the police so a couple cars could have been there watching the parking lot for *something*.

I'm not blaming anybody, it's just too bad they couldn't have pieced the whole thing together more quickly and avoided the second incident entirely. Maybe more will come out about it.

In the Omaha shooting, it sounds like it would have been harder to get to the perp if some private citizen had been there with a gun, being it was a no-gun zone plus it sounds like he more or less had the entire third-floor to himself, lessening the odds that someone could have taken him out were it possible rather than if he started shooting as soon as he got in the mall. He very likely could have killed many more than he did because of crowds and the surprise element.

1,889 posted on 12/10/2007 6:25:16 PM PST by Aliska
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