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2 dead, 2 hurt in Colo. Christian dorm shooting
MSNBC ^ | 12-9-2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/09/2007 8:31:07 AM PST by Nachum

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To: SandyInSeattle

Are you kidding me?!? SOP for ‘conservative’ thought has now devolved to gun, beard, attacks innocents....OMG Islamocists are running amok in the streets!!!! I’d laugh but it’s indeed sad (and somewhat telling unfortunately) of a small clique in the Republican base that when a tragedy like this occurs it’s an opportunity to bash a minority of citizens who innocent until proven guilty apparently doesn’t apply


21 posted on 12/09/2007 9:03:39 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: technomage
"Evidently it is to much to ask that we wait a few hours until the actual FACTS come out."

Well of course. Got to get in all the muslim bashing we can before it's revealed the perp was 20 yo middle class white kid on anti-depressents with loony tune liberal parents.

22 posted on 12/09/2007 9:04:53 AM PST by joebuck
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To: eleni121

Not saying there is a connection with this shooting, but to your statement that the Muslims are waiting for orders, I say they are not waiting. They already have their orders — in the Koran.


23 posted on 12/09/2007 9:05:23 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: joebuck

“Well of course. Got to get in all the muslim bashing we can before it’s revealed the perp was 20 yo middle class white kid on anti-depressents with loony tune liberal parents.”

Liberal or muslim, both seem to have a majority of followers that seek to destroy America and freedom.

I agree though, that we need to wait until we know who did it before bashing anyone. Non-Muslims commit most of the murders in America with a few obvious exceptions. Muslims also kill more muslims around the world than anyone else.


24 posted on 12/09/2007 9:08:55 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: SandyInSeattle

The point I was making is a wider one...Muslims are here and waiting. And their rhetoric has influenced lots of other nutjobs.

Their allegiance is not to this nation or its constitution. Anyone who believes that -— there is a bridge...


25 posted on 12/09/2007 9:09:01 AM PST by eleni121 ((+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: technomage; billbears

It’s sad.

It’s also why I rarely post here these days. We’ve become what we once criticized.


26 posted on 12/09/2007 9:11:56 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

“Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.”

Pretty hard to reconcile your post with your tagline.


27 posted on 12/09/2007 9:53:04 AM PST by jwh_Denver (No more SOUTHERN GOVERNORS for President. PERIOD)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I agree with that statement completely, unfortunately. I am actually backing off of making any comments of any kind, lately I have been getting the impression almost any I say or anyone else is affecting something else elsewhere, like throwing the rock in the raging river, you never know what it will do.


28 posted on 12/09/2007 10:03:04 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: basil

Why on earth would you expect a bunch of high schoool/college age kids in a dorm on church grounds to have a gun?? I’m familiar with the church, went to the pastor’s brother’s church for five years, and can guarantee it’s no liberal, PC, anti-gun group of people. Those kids were there as a part of YWAM (Youth With a Mission) and had every stinkin’ right to believe they were safe as they went about their business. I am very upset by this right now. It wasn’t a random crime, Christians were specifically targeted by a lunatic, but I would bet a paycheck he won’t pay the price for a “hate crime.”


29 posted on 12/09/2007 10:13:44 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Can we wait for him to be identified before we all assume he’s Muslim?!....It’s also why I rarely post here these days. We’ve become what we once criticized.

Please don’t stop posting. We need people with some common sense and restraint before jumping to rash conclusions around here.

A few days ago after the first news reports about the mall shooting in Omaha, there was a lot of speculation and accusations prior to any factual evidence around here, that the shooter had to have been a Muslim. Same with the Amish Schoolhouse shooting. Same with any train derailment, chemical plant explosion…

First reports say that the shooter was wearing a skull cap, he “may” have glasses or a beard or a mustache.

Eye witness accounts are notorious for being wrong – just ask any cop. A skull cap may have been a knit cap as is worn by many people in Denver during the winter.

But I will withhold any more speculation or judgment until more facts are known.

BTW – I like your tag line.
30 posted on 12/09/2007 10:16:00 AM PST by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Excuse me—I read that there were folks in their 50’s there. Didn’t sound like all kids to me.


31 posted on 12/09/2007 10:17:28 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Nachum

VIDEO Shooting at missionary training center Dec. 9: Police are searching for a gunman who allegedly killed two at a missionary training center in Arvada, Colo. KUSA's Bazi Kanani has the latest details.

32 posted on 12/09/2007 10:30:01 AM PST by restornu (Discern effects of evils & designs which exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days)
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To: SandyInSeattle; technomage; billbears

Criticize all you want but refrain from exagerrating the level of safety here in the US..the Euros have started to come to understand that I would say

There are Islamic sleeper cells in the US..awaiting their orders. Fortunately some people are awake to this possibility.

http://www.aina.org/news/2007112093227.htm


33 posted on 12/09/2007 10:30:54 AM PST by eleni121 ((+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Well, we don’t yet know who the killer is or what motivated him. But we do know that the relentless anti-Christian propaganda trumpeted on TV, in film, via books, and in the national media is designed to turn America into a hostile living environment for faithful, serious Christians. The impact of this propaganda on fragile or unstable minds can easily lead to atrocities like this.
And, if evidence of MSM bias is needed, look no further than this news story: the dogs in the street know that if a Jewish or Muslim site had been attacked, the story would lead with hysterical references to possible “hate crimes.” No “hate crime” here, MSM suggests by omission— merely elimination of some inconvenient Christians.
34 posted on 12/09/2007 10:51:08 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: Nachum

So sad. Prayers for the families.


35 posted on 12/09/2007 11:04:14 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: SandyInSeattle
Can we wait for him to be identified before we all assume he’s Muslim?!

I don't think it's unreasonable to immeadiately attempt to place blame on those who:

1.Have declaired they will kill all of us

2.We are in a hot shooting war with.

36 posted on 12/09/2007 11:33:19 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I'll do this agains, AFTER checking for spelling errors

Can we wait for him to be identified before we all assume he’s Muslim?!

I don't think it's unreasonable to immediately attempt to place blame on those who:

1.Have declared they will kill all of us

2.We are in a hot shooting war with.

37 posted on 12/09/2007 11:35:31 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Nachum

~no profiling allowed~ (/s)


38 posted on 12/09/2007 11:37:03 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

“Well who would you want on your side?
The meek and the mild, or people who can reak havoc?”

That could depend on whether you want to inherit the earth or not.


39 posted on 12/09/2007 11:39:16 AM PST by mtdew (screech)
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To: Caramelgal

I think a lot of folks, are cautiously curious and on guard. It goes back to the days of Green, yellow and red alerts. http://www.terror-alert.com/

I know exactly what you mean though...but honestly, after the MISTAKEN profile for the maryland sniper shooting....one has to question ANY profiling done by so called experts.

It didn’t help on the mall threads, that a pic of a black guy dressed in fatigues was posted..after reports that the shooter was dressed in fatigues. If I recall correctly, it was the same black guy that was hiding under the bench outside, but I’m not sure we ever found out why he was hiding, who he was or what happened to him afterwards.


40 posted on 12/09/2007 11:47:37 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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