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Gunman wounds 4 in missionary center
Associated Press ^ | 9 December 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/09/2007 5:27:53 AM PST by mrhansen

DENVER - A gunman walked into a training center for young Christian missionaries in a Denver suburb early Sunday and opened fire, wounding at least four people.

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The shooting happened at about 12:30 a.m. on Sunday at the Youth With a Mission center, Arvada Police spokeswoman Susan Medina said.

The extent of the injuries was not clear, and the gunman was still at large Sunday morning.

According to its Web site, Youth With a Mission has about 1,000 locations worldwide and trains people to become missionaries. About 50 people were inside the Arvada site when the gunman opened fire.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antichristian; banglist; christian; christianpersecution; christianstudents; colorado; denver; dorm; missionary; persecution; rkba; schoolshooting; shooting; ywam
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To: Sender

I tend to agree with the possibilities you mentioned.


61 posted on 12/09/2007 6:24:33 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: wastedyears

Hopefully, that is the case with most people who enjoy them. I guess it apparently is the case, or we would see a greater percentage of these incidents from the ranks of those who do play them.

I still think it has to be considered a factor in the incidents of those unstable ones who played out their fantasy in real life, even if it isn’t the dominant factor.


62 posted on 12/09/2007 6:35:06 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: El Gato; mrhansen; Hebrews 11:6

I was fairly young when Starkweather went on his spree, but, I remember it, and as horrible,and as evil as it was, it is possible to understand what he considered motivation.

I guess that’s it. It is possible to understand some motivations no matter how horrible, or warped. It is next to impossible to understand wiping out so many innocent lives, and taking your own immediately afterward, with no other motivation than the fact that others will know your name because you did it, regardless of what they may think of you. Somehow the age of the perpetrators makes it even worse.

24/7 news coverage was part of the enticement for fame, I guess, although his pleasure had to be in the anticipation, in the case of the Omaha killer. He certainly didn’t live to see it.


63 posted on 12/09/2007 8:10:55 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo
Blah blah blah...omaha guy was an EVIL GUTLESS PU--- !!!

the only thing worth considering in the whole event is the continual media glory [another tool of evil] and the damn hand wringing over why he did it...Again he was just an EVIL GUTLESS ...

64 posted on 12/09/2007 8:29:24 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Gilbo_3

I’m no hand wringer. I agree that media glory seems to be a part of the motivation for all kinds of things these days. Many seem to want their 15 minutes regardless of what it takes to get it.

My point is that even most evil motives lend themselves to some sort of understanding. Of course, we don’t have to understand it to recognize it as evil, and want justice to be done.

The discussion stemmed from me saying that I couldn’t remember particular incidents like these when I was a kid - meaning such senseless, random taking of innocent lives, with no apparent motive other than for the heck of it. The alarming thing is that the perps seem to be younger and younger these days.


65 posted on 12/09/2007 9:08:19 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: appalachian_dweller

Thanks for the ping.

I am late to Free Republic tonight and have not read it all as yet.

Velveeta sent me this link to the second shooting in Colorado Churches today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1937068/posts?page=1112

I am listening to koa.com it is the Steve Douglas program, except that George Brocker is guest hosting and it is about the shootings.

You can listen in to this program now, or for the next day on the computer, it was for 24 hours, but may be longer now.

http://www.koa.com

You will need to dig around to find the saved copy, for listening.


66 posted on 12/09/2007 10:44:32 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (I vote to outlaw hidden links in articles. If the URL is worthy of clicking, then show it.)
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To: LucyJo

“But, it is difficult to believe that someone could just decide to do something like this “out of the blue” with no provocation from the victims.”

Welcome to the old concept of “evil”. Suffering of the innocent is just one of many aspects of “evil”.

As for provocation, they were ‘Christian’, and that is enough for any and all Muslims to be able to justify either enslaving or killing them.

Islam is both antithetical to, and irreconcilable with, any and all other faiths. That includes the historical incessant warfare between Sufi and Sunni Muslims.

ISLAM DELENDA EST - America’s version of Cato’s famous speech to the Roman Senate.

After all


67 posted on 12/10/2007 5:32:30 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: MainFrame65

“Another TARGET-RICH ENVIRONMENT attracts a predator.”

How about: “Another TARGET-RICH ENVIRONMENT, in a “gun free zone”, attracts a predator.”


68 posted on 12/10/2007 5:35:59 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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