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Let the flaming directed at me begin!
1 posted on 12/09/2007 5:23:01 AM PST by LowCountryJoe
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To: LowCountryJoe

No flaming at you....

Just another article pushing the pro-illegal/anti-American agenda.

If no one posted these leftists’ articles here at FR, I wouldnt know what these goofballs were saying.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 5:26:05 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Mike Huckabee values illegals, criminals, and terrorists...Thanks "Values Voters")
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To: LowCountryJoe

Let the flaming directed at me begin!

....... did you write the article?


3 posted on 12/09/2007 5:26:11 AM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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Is Mr Kinsley one of your hero's?
4 posted on 12/09/2007 5:26:48 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: LowCountryJoe
Let the flaming directed at me begin!

Why are you really Mike Kinsley?

It is always interesting to read these holier than thou secularists preach law and order to US. Lowlife finger pointing accusers what a bunch of purists.....!!!!

5 posted on 12/09/2007 5:27:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: LowCountryJoe

The best thing to do is to look at it this way. Would you leave your door to your home unlock and let any one come in, regardless if you knew them or not? The answer is no.


6 posted on 12/09/2007 5:27:53 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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The suspicion naturally arises that the illegality is not what bothers you. What bothers you is the immigration. There is an easy way to test this. Reducing illegal immigration is hard, but increasing legal immigration would be easy. If your view is that legal immigration is good and illegal immigration is bad, how about increasing legal immigration? How about doubling it? Any takers?...

Absolute textbook example of the thinking of a phony pseudo-intellectual fraud who is too stupid to realize it. He is at once a fraud and the victim of a fraud: for years he has surrounded himself with people of his own ilk, who tell him how smart he is (while he tells them how smart they are). He actually thinks he's clever!

7 posted on 12/09/2007 5:28:32 AM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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I would have no problem with increasing legal immigration if:

the immigrants were not criminals to begin with, foisted upon us by Latin American countries,

the immigrants were able to work and support their families rather than be supported by government programs,

the immigrants and their employers were subject to the same laws and protections the rest of us are.

8 posted on 12/09/2007 5:30:31 AM PST by aberaussie
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Typical of the anti-American left-wingers at Time. They want to destroy our country and make it into a Socialist dictatorship and that is the way it is and has been for some time. They would like for the real Americans to be destroyed and the Left take over as did Hitler and Stalin.


10 posted on 12/09/2007 5:33:08 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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Author is moron. No problem here with LEGAL immigration. In fact, I would support laws allowing the immediate immigration of one legal on the “waiting list” for every two illegals deported.


12 posted on 12/09/2007 5:36:14 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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Thishere lifeboat is fast filling up.
Riiight up to themthere gunnels, in fact.
Glub, glub..........................


13 posted on 12/09/2007 5:37:56 AM PST by Flintlock
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Another liberal ivory tower type that doesn't live down here with the rest of us -

To him, a flood of aliens pouring into the country with very few restrictions is just the same kind of problem as going faster than 55 mph on the freeway.

He doesn't see any problem with whole swaths of our neighborhoods with a separate laguage, culture and value system. He doesn't see a problem with youth gangs proliferating, school systems loaded with non-English speaking kids and little drive to learn, or hospital emergency rooms loaded 24/7 with indigent patients - as long as his lawn gets mowed inexpensively.

The issue isn't immigration - it's flooding. Uncontrolled, unregulated, and unstoppable flooding and the inescapable damage that is occurring unless this flood is brought under control.

Liberal princes like this writer don't see a problem with separate communities springing up all over the country - but I'm sure he hasn't visited some of the communities in the Southwest where he wouldn't be understood or welcomed.

Just as long as his investment portfolio is doing well and his agenda is followed, what else matters?

14 posted on 12/09/2007 5:38:46 AM PST by USMCVet
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Just more self-loathing liberal white bread hating on the bakery that made him.
One tends to tire of leftist screeders sucking the sweet milk of freedom while cursing the cow.
“So-called racists sexists homophobes agree,
this is what the left thinks of we.
And what do we do to deserve such grief?
Spend all our time defending the country!”


15 posted on 12/09/2007 5:43:07 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: LowCountryJoe
Let the flaming directed at me begin!

Opposite argument. Let's stop all immigration/visas for 5-10 years.

16 posted on 12/09/2007 5:43:25 AM PST by PGalt
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To: LowCountryJoe

Micheal Kinsley is a lying sack of filth and anything that comes from his mouth or pen is only done in order to break America.


18 posted on 12/09/2007 5:45:08 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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As a Klingon delegation once patiently explained to a bunch of pacifists attempting to prevent Earth’s entry into the Federation, an empire either expands or it dies. Same goes with civilizations. America either continues to grow or it goes the same as Europe.

The problem with illegal immigration is that it gives the polity no choice with regard to continuing the essential and fundamental characteristics that current members of the polity have invested in creating, improving, and maintaining. As we see happening throughout Europe, the names and the physical locations of towns, cities, and countries remain the same, but the people who made those nations great (or mediocre or bad) are now marginalized, wondering what happened to their country.

Consequently, where you stand on the amount of immigration depends upon what you believe to be the core values of America that are worth preserving at all costs. If you believe the “essence” of America is just a “land of opportunity”, then of course you prefer unlimited immigration. Unlimited immigration means that the new immigrants will be beholden to whatever party or politician made and makes it possible for them to come here and have opportunity. That means a continued power base for the pols, even though over time it will change the character of the polity and ultimately reduce the opportunities that attracted people in the first place.

If you believe America was founded upon Lockean conceptions of individual freedom and responsibility, the you should favor increasing immigration to the maximum extent at which it is still possible to bring people on board AS AMERICANS. That’s probably a lot more than we currently are taking legally.


19 posted on 12/09/2007 5:46:46 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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Mr. Kinsley needs to get outside of his bubble.

I know libs - the ones with kids in the public school system - who are absolutely fed-up with having classrooms that have to cater to multiple languages.


20 posted on 12/09/2007 5:47:05 AM PST by incredulous joe (" I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize." - Stephen Wright)
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Not only is illegal immigration good for America, illegal immigration will make America strong. Illegals come here only to better themselves. No illegals would dare consider breaking any of America’s laws.

The illegals do not take advantage of the American taxpayers. The illegals do not dwell in criminal activity. It is the exact opposite with the illegals. America should ban legal immigration. There is where the real problems lay. None should be allow to come to this nation, unless those who do come are coming here illegally. The new catch phrase is, If it is legal, America does not desire it.

Yes, legal immigration is the problem. LaRaza, CAIR, the ACLU all back illegal immigration. With organizations such as these backing illegal immigration, I would hope Congress will come on-board and demand America remove every legal from this nation. By Congressional Action, America can do the right thing and remove the LEGALS from our midst, thus our nation can be made strong again.

Contact your Representatives and Senators and demand all LEGALS be removed. It’s the right thing to do. LaRaza, CAIR, the ACLU and many other organizations will support your efforts, and our Congressional Representatives will fully know that America has seen the light of the oncoming, speeding Freight Train and is willing to place American on the tracks, for America’s demise. It will be a wonderful day. Each one participating will feel good about themselves, that they too, brought fourth the strength illegal immigration brings.

22 posted on 12/09/2007 5:53:00 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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Based on the title and the contents of the article, I’d have to agree. Mr. Kinsley is kidding himself.


23 posted on 12/09/2007 5:53:10 AM PST by Lord Basil
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To: LowCountryJoe

Why flame you, unless you agree with the article, which you have not stated.

Right off the bat, the dumb ass who wrote this states: “...Why are you so upset about this particular form of lawbreaking? After all, there are lots of laws, not all of them enforced with vigor. The suspicion naturally arises that the illegality is not what bothers you. What bothers you is the immigration...”

Yes, there are lots of laws not enforced with vigor, but the nature of those un-enforced laws does not often have a direct and immediate impact on our lives.

Additionally, the people breaking those laws do not wish to change the lives of others, they simply wish to do something they feel they should be able to do lawfully (assuming those laws un-enforced “with vigor” are things such as jay-walking and smoking marijuana)

People who enter our country without the express permission to do so are doing so in direct violation of the laws of another country, indicating they have no respect for the rule of law. They wish to change our culture to theirs, they make no secret of that. They are a drain on the resources of our support systems, just ask any emergency room in a state with high illegal immigration.

This article is another statement of the slander that conservatives are against immigration. THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, AND IMMIGRATION IN THE FORM OF THAT FORMED AND IMPLEMENTED BY TED KENNEDY AND OTHER LIBERALS THAT REJECTS IMMIGRANTS WHO CAN HELP OUR COUNTRY AND OVERWHELMINGLY ACCEPTS IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE.


26 posted on 12/09/2007 6:02:32 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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If your view is that legal immigration is good and illegal immigration is bad, how about increasing legal immigration? How about doubling it? Any takers?...

Absolutely, with emphasis upon people friendly to America and with compatible values.

27 posted on 12/09/2007 6:04:41 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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