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To: sevenbak

The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8: p. 115)

“Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers” (Mormon Doctrine,” by Bruce McConkie, p. 547)
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Jesus is the literal spirit-brother of Lucifer, a creation. (Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15)


137 posted on 12/09/2007 12:21:34 PM PST by Gamecock (There was only one victorious life.)
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To: Gamecock
Those quotes have been spouted over and over by the anti talking points. Read them carefully and see the trap you have been taken for. It says the BIRTH was a natural as normal births, not the conception. The other one says Begotten, not conceived. Here, let me me make this really plain for you, since I know you won’t crack a Book of Mormon. Here’s what our official doctrine is on the virgin birth.

Alma 7:10
And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.

2 Nephi 17:14
Therefore, the Lord himself shall give you a sign—Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and shall bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

1 Nephi 11:20
And I looked and beheld the virgin again, bearing a child in her arms.

1 Nephi 11:18
And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh.

145 posted on 12/09/2007 3:49:01 PM PST by sevenbak (Wise men still seek Him.)
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