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Hillary Clinton is entitled to nothing
London Telegraph ^ | 08/12/2007 | Lionel Shriver

Posted on 12/08/2007 1:32:09 AM PST by Aristotelian

I'm married to a jazz drummer. I have sat at the front table in countless clubs, clapping and tapping my foot. I have even helped to schlep the snare and tom-tom into taxis. I have an amiable social relationship with any number of the cats with whom my husband plays. See, I even know some of the lingo. So I would like to advertise my services as a jazz drummer, too.

What, no bookings? Sticklers who object that I have never actually played the drums might reflect on Hillary Clinton's claim that eight years "in" the White House (that is, physically under the roof) count as political "experience", on the basis of which she deserves the presidency. Implicitly, Hillary has already been practically-president for two terms.

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What Hillary does have copious experience of, however, is what it's like to be publicly humiliated by a philandering husband on a scale of historical proportions. Make no mistake: if my husband ever gets a bit too friendly with an overweight, goo-goo-eyed groupie less than half his age, Hillary will be the first agony aunt I'll consult. On charming rogues and public smiles pasted on private anguish, she's an expert.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allconsuming; clintonterm3; hillary; lustforpower; stophillary
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Ouch!!!!!
1 posted on 12/08/2007 1:32:10 AM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

“Lionel” is a woman’s name? (Apologies to any women named Lionel in the audience.)


2 posted on 12/08/2007 1:39:33 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Aristotelian
From the article:
Accordingly, the American public is being held hostage to a back-room deal surely struck in the latter 1990s: "I'll stand by your side through this Monica debacle, so long as I get to be president, too." ... This understanding between Bill and Hillary, and subsequently between Hillary and the upper echelons of her party, ignores the fact that, in democracies, an elective office is ostensibly not theirs to trade. Moreover, this business of folks in power bargaining behind closed doors - "If you let me run the country for now, then I'll hand off the office to you at such-and-such a date" - feels painfully familiar here in Britain.
Ummm, so what?

There's nothing unusual or surprising about backroom deals, and they've been part of the American political landscape for as long as there's been politics. To claim that this instance is exceptional in that regard is disingenuous. I personally believe that a deal was in the works from the beginning of Clinton42's administration, and that the affair and impeachment nearly derailed it.

The only thing unusual in the case of the Clinton42 "arrangement" that has Hillary running for POTUS was the public affair and humiliation that she had to swallow. I don't think their original plan had that as part of it. Bill was improvising...

3 posted on 12/08/2007 1:49:10 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Aristotelian

I never thought I would say this; but the two top runners for the Democratic nomination have no experience at all to be POTUS.

Is this how far we have come? Quite a drop I would say.

Is it nothing but a clown side show on both sides anymore?


4 posted on 12/08/2007 1:51:16 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freekitty
...the two top runners for the Democratic nomination have no experience at all

Which adds reality to the article.

5 posted on 12/08/2007 1:58:56 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Aristotelian
Hillary is very bad for America, and I hope when it gets to voting time even some libs see that when they pull the lever. As to to the other dems (which I would not vote for),

but Biden or Dodd come across as much more able wise seasoned etc statesmen than she does. I am not saying they have not made big mistakes, but if a Dem won, I would feel much better with a Biden and his plagiarism or a Dodd rather than a Hilary.This is a woman who has made a career out of enabling a serial rapist.

So many people irrationally dislike/hate Bush.

But God help us if she wins.

6 posted on 12/08/2007 2:00:22 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: dayglored
The only thing unusual in the case of the Clinton42 "arrangement" that has Hillary running for POTUS was the public affair and humiliation that she had to swallow.

I thought Monica was the one who had to swallow.

7 posted on 12/08/2007 2:00:39 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
...the two top runners for the Democratic nomination have no experience at all

Which adds reality to the article.

What qualifying experience does #3 have? God help me, this just illustrates the weakness of the popular vote selecting the candidates. We can only hope that the voters will see through this and elect the Republican candidate in 2008, and that the Republican is worth the trust the voters put in him.

8 posted on 12/08/2007 2:03:24 AM PST by Bernard ("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
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To: dayglored
Accordingly, the American public is being held hostage to a back-room deal surely struck in the latter 1990s: "I'll stand by your side through this Monica debacle, so long as I get to be president, too." ... This understanding between Bill and Hillary, and subsequently between Hillary and the upper echelons of her party, ignores the fact that, in democracies, an elective office is ostensibly not theirs to trade. Moreover, this business of folks in power bargaining behind closed doors - "If you let me run the country for now, then I'll hand off the office to you at such-and-such a date" - feels painfully familiar here in Britain.

I think this writer has not done the homework. Hillry was co-president from campaign 1992, and that is exactly what she was. An unelected, unaccountable co-president, else why won't she allow her SECRET papers be released for US all to review. I think that is why Sandy the Burglar was sent to cleanse some records. Sure would not want any expose on who hired and instructed that wall builder that started at the Pentagon and moved on to Justice.

9 posted on 12/08/2007 2:05:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: JillValentine; dayglored
I thought Monica was the one who had to swallow

How many will swallow if Hilary gets inn?

It wont be the poor, and it wont be the rich, it will be all of us pukes in the wide in-between.

10 posted on 12/08/2007 2:07:06 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: Aristotelian

Hillary Clinton is entitled to........

- All of the distrust and scorn I can muster.

- Be ridiculed for her claims that she is accomplished.

- Be publicly mocked for claiming she didn’t know her husband was a sexual predator or that Bush lied to her about Saddams WMD stockpiles and tricked her into voting for war in Iraq.

- All of the disdain real feminists have for her for betraying their credo and relying on her husbands fame to get ahead in politics and in life.

- All the cankle jokes and the jokes about her as a coldhearted dictator-wannabe which she has accumulated.

- Half of all of Bills assets when she divorces him after a failed run for the White House!


11 posted on 12/08/2007 2:09:10 AM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: JillValentine
I thought Monica was the one who had to swallow.

Why do you think there were stains on the blew dress?

Actually, wasn't Monica's role holding the cigar?

12 posted on 12/08/2007 2:17:29 AM PST by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: bpjam
Half of all of Bills assets when she divorces him after a failed run for the White House!

They have too much dirt on each other for divorce to happen.
But Kankles could get lucky with an ashtray.

13 posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:55 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Aristotelian

If Laura Bush was running, the
“press” would figure it out in minutes. But with the

Clinton’s? Well, that’s a horse of a different color... Yeah right. Truth? Bill’s running for a third term.


14 posted on 12/08/2007 2:25:02 AM PST by GOPJ ("Imagine the Outrage if FOX had Fixed a “debate” like this??" Freeper bray -- "CNN Sucks" - GOPJ)
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To: Just mythoughts
Hillery was co-president from campaign 1992, and that is exactly what she was...

Yeah, right ... and the woman who wrote this was a co-drummer. If Hillary wasn't married to Bill, she's have a hard time being elected PTA President.

15 posted on 12/08/2007 2:38:04 AM PST by GOPJ ("Imagine the Outrage if FOX had Fixed a “debate” like this??" Freeper bray -- "CNN Sucks" - GOPJ)
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To: freekitty
"the two top runners for the Democratic nomination have no experience at all to be POTUS."

This is why the national electorate prefer "governors" since Gerald Ford. Executive experience. GHWB was assistant to the chief executive for eight years before he was elected.

This is why Huckleberry, Romney and Tooty Fruity are the forces to recon with.

This is why Cliton claims executive experience by association.

yitbos

16 posted on 12/08/2007 2:38:21 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: JillValentine
> I thought Monica was the one who had to swallow.

Well, she was supposed to. And just think, if she'd been better at swallowing, she wouldn't have had to worry about spilling on that blue dress, and we might have missed an impeachment.

17 posted on 12/08/2007 2:41:38 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: GOPJ
Yeah, right ... and the woman who wrote this was a co-drummer. If Hillary wasn't married to Bill, she's have a hard time being elected PTA President.

Hillry is not running for PTA President this election season she is taking all she took previously and using that as her claim to experience without ever demonstrating exactly who and what she was. Bill Clinton got to play and his price was that Hillry was the stealth president. Wasn't it after Monica they hired Panetta to babysit him to keep his playing out of the papers?

18 posted on 12/08/2007 2:43:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Quiller
> Actually, wasn't Monica's role holding the cigar?

Mainly she was keeping it from getting dried out. I heard Bill named her, ummm, private part, "Humidor".

19 posted on 12/08/2007 2:43:44 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I believe this is the woman in question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Shriver


20 posted on 12/08/2007 2:47:00 AM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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