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One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 10:10:11 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

The “new tone in Washington.”


4 posted on 12/07/2007 10:12:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

Why did he allow Porter Goss to be hung out to dry? Goss was attempting to do just that but once a few bureaucratic feathers were ruffled Bush folded like a cheap suitcase. There's some very strange and disturbing stuff going on on the security front, with spooks operating as an opposition goverenment and defying properly elected officials. Just what the hell did Frank Church and Stansfield Turner set into motion?

7 posted on 12/07/2007 10:20:18 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

Thank you, thank you. This guy in the White House is a poster boy for what not to elect as Pubbies. He has shown that this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" is our problem. You all here elected him because the opposite choice was worse. The worst is to keep voting in this corrupt cartel. Will we have a "French Revolution" or will be be taken over & become slaves to Bush's New World Order or The Hilabeast's commie, fascists gov. Nice outlook, right.

9 posted on 12/07/2007 10:27:43 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: FormerACLUmember

The problems at the State Department [known as “foggy bottom”] and CIA predate Bill Clinton by many, many years. The Federal bureaucracy has defined the illness known as “inside the beltway” at least since FDR.

Many of the Federal departments have a life of their own. Since they all tend to to protect their own turf by aggrandizing power and money to themselves, the result tends to be larger and more intrusive government.

The State Department has never been known to hold our enemies accountable, but they don’t seem to mind putting our friends at risk. Jimmy Carter was known for keeping the Soviets happy while stabbing our friends in the back. I would find it quite easy to believe that all of his inept policies originated from foggy bottom. He certainly seemed to be in concert with their usual drivel.

The problems with the CIA seem to have been worse during the last 15 years. I am not familiar with the politics, but I would suspect that some of the Congressional oversight that occurred after Iran-Contra may have strengthened the hand of the appeasers. It certainly gutted the agency of its ability to gather “gray” intelligence.


10 posted on 12/07/2007 10:30:29 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: FormerACLUmember

Totally agree. Bolton should’ve covered State and Condi the UN or something equally important.


40 posted on 12/08/2007 6:22:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

He'd have had to nuke the places, then burn the rubble to git rid of all of the germs left there by the Klinton gang. Now, Amerika wants to infilltrate the government with them again. It will take two decades to clean them out next time. Bush came in wanting to be pals with Kennedy and the other Marxists, that was his first mistake of many. His failures in this area far out weigh his gains. Take out the war effort and terror fight, and I give him an F grade. Failures on spending, big government, border security. He was and is a failure for 8 years.

41 posted on 12/08/2007 6:26:18 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

Yep. the ugly underbelly of the "new tone" takes its toll. Or maybe it was just incompetence at the nuts and bolts of governing.

42 posted on 12/08/2007 6:30:08 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

AMEN and Amen!

43 posted on 12/08/2007 6:34:19 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Absolutely true, the Plame/Libby debacle should have been a great opportunity for Bush to go public with the war the CIA has been fighting against his administration. Instead, he capitulated and let Libby go to trial.

The people in the CIA aren’t going to stop because he appeases them once, they will keep coming until someone exposes them and gets rid of them.

Thompson might be the only one of the candidates who gets this - he’s right on the NIE and he’s right on the LIbby affair.


54 posted on 12/08/2007 8:12:53 AM PST by phothus
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To: FormerACLUmember
One of Bush REAL failures was in not fumigating the CIA, State Dept., and Dept of Justice of all the Clinton moles.

Yup, and it is damaging America. New tones don't work when only one side is new toning.

73 posted on 12/08/2007 2:26:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FormerACLUmember

Liberals in the CIA have gauranteed millions of Americans and possibly tens of millions of Iranians will be vaporized. Nice.


80 posted on 12/08/2007 4:15:58 PM PST by Dead Dog
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