Posted on 12/07/2007 4:41:44 PM PST by Conservababe
I am in a debate with people who know nothing about Kerry's refusal to release his war records. What is the technical name for this disclosure?
Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Naval Discharge
Pay particular attention to the revelation regarding the REAL REASON that Jean-Fraude was refused admission to Harvard Law School.
I sincerely believe that Kerry would not even be electable to state office if the voters knew the truth.
Kerry was discharged on Feb 16, 1978, which just happens to be the day I was also honorably discharged from the USN Standby Reserves. I resigned my regular commission in 1972 and was released from active duty. Many people don’t understand the administrative process of the Reserves. I didn’t receive my honorable discharge certificate until 1978. There is a Navy board that meets to determine when to drop people from the Standby Reserves. Kerry went into the Standby Reserves in 1972 and like me, received his HD in 1978.
Same deal for my brother. He caught some shrapnel in Vietnam and the injury was minor, and required cleaning, antiseptic and a bandage. I asked him why he did not get a purple heart. He said, "I would have been embarrassed to ask for one when the injury was so minor."
I know more about Kerry's records than I care to know. I was an active participant in 2004 on FR discussing it. I downloaded all of his records and carefully went over them. I had separate, private email conversations with Lipscomb and the Holzers about the issue. I can only relate my own personal experience and knowledge to the Kerry case. I served in Vietnam from 1967 to 1968. I understand the Navy personnel system. I despise Kerry, contributed to the SBVFT multiple times, and was a campaign volunteer for Bush. There would be nothing more than I would like to find out is that Kerry received a GD that was upgraded to honorable. I don't think that is the case.
Thanks for the link. I did find the following interesting: "...points out that there should also have been a certified letter giving Mr. Kerry a choice of a reserve reaffiliation or separation and discharge." I did receive such a letter prior to getting my HD in 1978, six years after being released from active duty.
Kerry has knowingly restricted his release of his records to three friendly reporters, knowing full well that they don't have the desire or knowledge to figure out what the information means. As I have indicated elsewhere, the official record is not that useful given the fact that Kerry was the source for much of what is in the official record. It is the fact that his contemporaries [inclding his entire chain of command] who were there at the time dispute the official record, which makes it harder to sell to the public and the MSM, and this was detailed in Unfit for Command. We need to find out how Kerry's first PH was authorized and the story behind the reissuance of his medal certificates in 1985.
I could go on and on about the subject, but frankly, I just don't want to invest the effort. It is important given the fact that Kerry is running for reelection and he is trying to preserve his "hero status" that was badly punctured by the SBVFT. The MSM has been shilling for him.
No problem. Both links are of great interest! Thanks!!
Would he still be considered an officer of the USN while in the Standby Reserves?
Yes, but inactive. On 3 Jan 1970 Kerry went from active duty to the Naval Reserve [inactive]. On 1 July 1972 he went from Naval Reserve [inactive] to Standby Reserve [inactive]. On 16 Feb 1978 Kerry was discharged from the Naval Reserve as a Lieutenant [O-3].
You don't ask or request a PH nor do you need to be recommended. Purple Heart
Thanks!
"You are advised that your release from active duty does not terminate your status as a member of the U.S. Naval Reserve. On the day following the effective date of your release from active duty as specified in paragraph 3 of the endorsement, you will assume the status of a member of the Naval Reserve on inactive duty. While on active duty you are subject to involuntary recall on active duty to extent authorized by federal statue....
When Kerry met twice with the Vietnamese Communists in Paris, he was subject to involuntary recall. He was also required per paragraph 7, "In the event you plan travel or residence in foreign countries for a period in excess of 30 days, notice of your intent will be submitted to the command having custody of your service record. Such notice should include destination, expected duration of travel or residencey, and a forwarding address."
You are right. That was the wrong word to use.
The PH though does require the signature of an officer and it does require medical treatment. Additionally, before the PH is awarded there is a review process, this was what I was referring to.
In practice one can ask for and push for a PH. I believe this is precisely what happened with Kerry. His wounds were minor and were not sufficient to automatically qualify him for a PH. However he convinced others that he deserved it and they acquiesced.
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