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Gospel Truth (Judas)
NY Times ^ | 12-1-2007 | April D Deconick

Posted on 12/07/2007 1:13:57 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 12/07/2007 1:13:57 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 1:14:16 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

The so-called gospel flagrantly contradicts the rest of NT scripture. It’s a fake no matter how it’s translated.


3 posted on 12/07/2007 1:16:15 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: blam
Judas’s reward? Ascent to heaven and exaltation above the other disciples.

Delusions of grandeur to the max!

I wonder if Pseudo-Dionysus is behind this silly story too. He sure fooled a lot of gullible people over the centuries.

4 posted on 12/07/2007 1:16:32 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Laugh at yourself first, before anyone else can.)
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To: blam

As she says, it’s still a Gnostic gospel, written with the intention of attacking and undermining Christianity.

That’s why these false gospels are so appealing. National Geographic is not immune to the anti-Christian currents of our time.


5 posted on 12/07/2007 1:21:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ovrtaxt

It’s reported by the BY Slimes so it has to be true(sarc on).


6 posted on 12/07/2007 1:22:44 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: blam

Makes me think of Dan Rather.


7 posted on 12/07/2007 1:23:21 PM PST by Waco
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To: blam
Translator traitor.
8 posted on 12/07/2007 1:26:01 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Did the NIE include a review of the Gospels too?


9 posted on 12/07/2007 1:29:14 PM PST by trek
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To: Cicero

The Gnostics WERE Christians. They just were not Pauline Christians.

Were the Arians Christians? Were the Cathras Christians?


10 posted on 12/07/2007 1:29:25 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: blam

If it’s not in that Black Book, it’s not true.


11 posted on 12/07/2007 1:32:59 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: blam
If I understand this correctly, it is thought to be a gnostic text written in the 3rd century?

But if so, why would anyone take it seriously? Might as well trust the story of George Washington cutting down the cherry tree rather then documents from the actual time of George Washington.

12 posted on 12/07/2007 1:33:47 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: ZULU
“The Gnostics WERE Christians.”

A sizable portion of the NT was written to contradict incipient gnostic “Christianity”. Gnostic "Christianity" may have been done in Jesus name, but it was not his gospel.

13 posted on 12/07/2007 1:35:12 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ZULU
The Gnostics WERE Christians.You are very mistaken. Read a summary of Gnostic theology and compare it with what is in Romans. Or perhaps the Nicene creed. They are very different.
14 posted on 12/07/2007 1:41:15 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: blam

How is it handled when Judas hangs himself and his insides pop out and that’s according to the Bible?


15 posted on 12/07/2007 1:41:30 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: blam

I guess delusional people think that if you rewrite history it can change reality. It can’t.


16 posted on 12/07/2007 1:49:13 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: ZULU
The Gnostics WERE Christians.

The Church fathers were irked enough to spend most of the first century disagreeing with you.

But if you and Dan Brown want to get together over drinks and cheer on the Gnostics, Gnock yourself out . . .
17 posted on 12/07/2007 1:57:04 PM PST by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: freepertoo
The so-called gospel flagrantly contradicts the rest of NT scripture. It’s a fake no matter how it’s translated.

It is a well known Gnostic fraud. The value of the text, is that we now have a copy, to go along with early church fathers writings that exposed it as a fraud.

18 posted on 12/07/2007 1:58:05 PM PST by D Rider
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To: ZULU

The basic positions of the Gnostics could be summed up by three basic points:

1) The biblical God, or Jahweh, who created the world was an evil demon. The real God is inaccessible.

2) Gnostic means secret knowledge. You have insiders who know what is going on, and the rest of the peons are expected to serve and worship them.

3) Matter is evil, spirit is good. (Which is why the creation of the world was evil.)

Sorry, but I don’t think that’s Christian, in any meaningful sense of the word.

If you look into the Arians and Cathars you find some considerable problems, too, from a Protestant as well as a Catholic perspective.

Are Unitarians Christian? No, not in any meaningful sense. Are Muslims Christian? They think that Jesus was a prophet, but they certainly are not Christians.


19 posted on 12/07/2007 2:04:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ZULU

No. They were not.


20 posted on 12/07/2007 2:55:29 PM PST by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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