Watson, Are you lying on purpose, or are you simply an uneducated on Mormon beliefs?
If Jesus is the The Paraclete/ Advocate/ Comforter.
Then who is the third member of the Godhead?
1 the person of God
2 the person of Christ
3 the person of the Holy Ghost
Three seperate and distint being with one purpose:
Godhead
The Church’s first article of faith states, “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.” These three beings make up the Godhead. They preside over this world and all other creations of our Father in Heaven.
Additional Information
The true doctrine of the Godhead was lost in the apostasy that followed the Savior’s mortal ministry and the deaths of His Apostles. This doctrine began to be restored when 14-year-old Joseph Smith received his First Vision (see Joseph Smith—History 1:17). From the Prophet’s account of the First Vision and from his other teachings, we know that the members of the Godhead are three separate beings. The Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bones, and the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit (see D&C 130:22).
Although the members of the Godhead are distinct beings with distinct roles, they are one in purpose and doctrine. They are perfectly united in bringing to pass Heavenly Father’s divine plan of salvation.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you”
Comforter
See Holy Ghost
from lds.org
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You were saying, “Watson, Are you lying on purpose, or are you simply an uneducated on Mormon beliefs?”
That’s what I simply cannot understand. How can so many Mormons be so ignorant about what has been “studied to death” — about all the radical differences between Mormon teachings and doctrines — and Christian teachings and doctrines and theology.
It’s got to be something of one of these — (1) they’re ignorant of their own doctrine, (2) they’re ashamed of their own doctrines, (3) they’re deceived (themselves) of their own doctrines, or (4) they are deceiving others about their own doctrines.
It’s just too unbelievable, with *any one* of those possibilities. It just boggles my mind...
Regards,
Star Traveler
From my book:
(1) John 14:16; (2) John 14:26; (3) John 15:26 & (4) John 16:7-8,13-14 These four passages describe the Holy Ghost as the Paraclete [parakletos] of the members of the true church, just as Jesus is (John 14:16; 1 Jn 2:1; Rom 8:34; Heb 7:25). A Paraclete is a being who pleads one’s cause. He replaces Jesus. We can discern his equality with Jesus because of how he’s described and also because of Christ’s usage of “allos” for another.
One of my favorite biblical passages is John 14:16, for a very good reason. In this one verse the equality and divinity of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are established. Just as “erotao” (not “aiteo”) supports the idea Jesus is equal with the Father, so does “allos” (243/257) not “heteros” (2087/2283) for the word “another,” supports the equality of the Holy Ghost with Christ and the Father.
`Allos and heteros have a difference in meaning, which despite a tendency to be lost, is to be observed in numerous passages. Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes “another of the same sort”; heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes “another of a different sort.” Christ promised to send “another Comforter” (allos, “another like Himself,” not heteros).’1
`The use of allos and heteros in the New Testament should be carefully examined, for another numerically must not be confounded with another generically. Mr. Vine points this out in John 14:16. When Christ said, “I will make request of the Father, and He shall give you another Helper (allon Parakleton).” He made a tremendous claim both for Himself and for the Spirit, for allos here implies the personality of the Spirit, and the equality of both Jesus and the Spirit with the Father.’2
The contrast of these two kinds of “another” is clearly visible in Gal 1:6-7 which says:
Gal 1:6-7 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another [heteros] gospel: Which is not another [allos]; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
They abandoned the true Gospel and started following another [a different kind of] gospel. It isn’t another [the same kind of gospel].
The Greek words “allos” and “heteros” are frequently interchangeable,3 but “allos” is used more in the sense of “other/another” while “heteros” is used more in the sense of “different/another.” When “heteros” is used as “a distinguishing adj. or adv. it denotes something which is not identical with what has been referred to previously. This may involve a more or less pronounced qualitative distinction, in which case the term acquires theological significance.”4
Catherine was making snacks for her children and asked her six year old son to help her by getting some fruit from the refrigerator. Her son brought back two apples. She told him, “Please get me another fruit.”
In English, the word “another” doesn’t convey what kind of fruit she’s asking for but if she said in Greek, “Please get me another [allos] fruit” her son would understand her to mean get “another of the same sort,” meaning, “get another apple.” If she said “Please get me another [heteros] fruit” he would understand her to mean “get another fruit but a different kind.” He would consequently get a different kind of fruit like an orange or a pear.
Jesus Christ’s usage of allos shows he was describing the Holy Ghost to be a replica of whatever he was. If Jesus is “God” the Holy Ghost is also “God.”
[ENDNOTES]:
1.VEDBW-NT. p. 29.
2.VEDBW-NT. Foreword.
3.GELNT-SD. 58.36-37; TDNT. 1:264-265; 2:702-704; BAGD. pp. 39-40,315; NIDNTT. 2:739-742.
4.TDNT. 2:702.
How’s THAT for “lying” or being “uneducated”???