Posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:37 AM PST by ZGuy
Elsie, why lie? And which of the DOZENS of passages I cited in the Latter-day Scriptures PROVES we’re not Christians? http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bicycleroad/21/id108.htm
This is just typical of your MO. The Latter-day Scriptures teach EXPLICITLY and using language that is much CLEARER than the Bible that Jesus is God. For example:
2 Nephi 26:12 And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God./ Mosiah 3:5-8 For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases. And he shall cast out devils, or the evil spirits which dwell in the hearts of the children of men. And lo, he shall suffer temptations, and pain of body, hunger, thirst, and fatigue, even more than man can suffer, except it be unto death; for behold, blood cometh from every pore, so great shall be his anguish for the wickedness and abominations of his people. And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary. / 3 Nephi 19:18 And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God. / D&C 18:33 And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it. / D&C 66:13 Verily, thus saith the Lord your God, your Redeemer, even Jesus Christ. Amen.
Elsie, why lie? Is that a sign of a true Christian and a true follower of Christ?
Third of Five and SevenOfNine might agree with you!
NO!!
I'm am SHOCKED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8
MIND READING ALERT!
Nope...
The US was founded on the idea that we COULD!!!!
Whaaaa!!!
I'm being CRITISIZED!!!
If Jesus has no penis, then YOU won’t have one either!
(Bet your wife for eternity will NOT be happy for long!)
So, according to you, JESUS LIED!!!!
Ask and ye shall receive. Seek and ye shall find.
Ask the Father in my name ...
Why bother praying to God then if you refuse to LISTEN and OBEY HIM when he answers?
FYI, when Paul told the Bereans Christ was the fulfillment of OT prophecy; what were they supposed to do? Weren’t they supposed to examine the OT passages to determine if Paul’s claims were accurate and interpreted correctly?
Different situation, different message, different methodology.
Of course, I know you and your MO so it’s not surprising you will once again twise the Word of God to suit your bigotry.
I got curious about the New Jerusalem/ Missouri thing, and started asking about it on these threads, after about a month of having either no answers or misleading answers, I am still not certain if Christ is supposed to return to Missouri or the Middle East.
Christians would have answered a question like that about their faith quickly and clearly.
How many secrets are you unable to answer?
How exactly can you possibly misunderstand the simple declarations of these statements?
Oh... little things like THIS!
"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
(JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224).
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
The VOICE OF AUTHORITY has spoken...if you don't believe it, just ask him.
Well, since you are obviously not a genuine seeker of truth and you really don’t seem to have the intestinal fortitude to find out the truth for yourself (I mean, come on! How hard is it to Goggle and read???); why continue this exchange?
All you’ve done is throw mud - prove something or get out of the kitchen.
I have NEVER; did you hear that?; NEVER told by ANY pastor anything about MORMONS!
But I have read a LOT of the LDS organizations writings!
Then I am just confused.
So many posters to keep straight....
HA Ha ha!
??? Typical dishonesty Elsie. Tsk, tsk. The Journal of Discourses is not authoritative over Mormons - only the Scriptures. You of course know that.
Typical Elsie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8
Right off the bat, censoring. Very telling. Who made you God? Oh, never mind.
You jumped the shark, Sweety!
Here's a question for you:
Why hasn't ANY LDS organization leader since BY said his statements were false?
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