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State Spent $265K On Hawkins' Care (Mall Shooter Was State Ward For 4 Years)
KETV7 ^ | December 6, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 12/07/2007 5:27:05 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182

OMAHA, Neb. -- Nebraska spent $265,000 and four years trying to provide help to the 19-year-old who became the Westroads Mall shooter on Wednesday afternoon.

Eight people were killed, in addition to the shooter, Robert A. Hawkins.

Gov. Dave Heineman said Hawkins became a ward of the state on Sept. 17, 2002, but parental rights were not terminated and none of his siblings were state wards. Hawkins was terminated as a state ward on Aug. 24, 2006. sponsor

Todd Landry, the director of Child and Family Services for the Department of Health and Human Services, said the state spent $265,000 on services provided to Hawkins over the four years he was a state ward. Landry said Hawkins was made a state ward with no parental fault, but because he needed services, which included stays at residential centers and in-patient at a hospital.

Landry said Hawkins stayed at a facility in Missouri called Piney Ridge, plus Omaha's Cooper Village, Lutheran Family Services and Addiction and Behavioral Health Services Inc. Landry said those homes provide addiction counseling, mental-health counseling and behavioral counseling, among other services, but he could not say exactly what Hawkins was treated for under federal and state privacy laws.

Landry did say that one of the treatment periods came after Hawkins threatened to kill his stepmother.

Hawkins Timeline:

* 2002 became ward of the state
* February 2003 taken to Cooper Village
* November 2003 arrested for a fight
* December 2004 enters foster care
* March 2005 charged with possession with intent to deliver
* December 2005 went to live with his father in La Vista
* August 2006 state care ends under court order

While a state ward, he was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder, mood disorder, oppositional defiant disorder and parent-child relations problems.

Landry said Hawkins was "provided quality services for a youth that needed it."

At Papillion-La Vista High School, the school Hawkins dropped out of a few years ago, the principal said he was unmotivated and troubled but never violent.

"He struggled as far as education, following the rules, but you'd have never thought he was cable of that," said Principal Jim Glover........"


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He was an expensive nutcake before the shootings. Sometimes people don't work out no matter what is done for them.
1 posted on 12/07/2007 5:27:06 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182; neverdem

All I hear about is step mom and step dad. Where were real mom and real dad?

The same kid raised in a stable home might have had a far better outcome.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 5:31:38 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

66 thousand a year for a troubled teen? Give me two, please. I’ll raise ‘em to be productive citizens, not mass murderers.


3 posted on 12/07/2007 5:34:57 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Vote for Mike Huckabee or Chuck Norris will give you a wedgie!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What cracks me up about this whole thing is that there is a plethora of CCW holders in the area.

The state law mandates that any business can post that it does not want CCW holders carrying in their premises and this Mall did just that.

This could have been stopped in the first few moments if some moron didn’t exclude those within the law, from carrying protection.

for some reason it seems, this convicted felon went out of his way to break the law and the Mall rules??? (unbelievable as it me seem /s)

“When Guns Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns”


4 posted on 12/07/2007 5:35:54 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Travis McGee

* December 2005 went to live with his father in La Vista


5 posted on 12/07/2007 5:39:08 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sometimes there’s no fixing bad seeds.


6 posted on 12/07/2007 5:43:09 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Travis McGee

Real mom and real dad kicked him out. Some bleeding-heart took him in.

I tutor, sometimes have kids from the foster homes. I was speaking with a friend once, a Social Worker, re a young man I was tutoring who was in a group home. I recalled a conversation in which I had told him, “The problem you are having, J, is that you are lazy.” She said, “Oh, they could NEVER tell him that, in the group home. They can only give him ‘counseling’ and ‘advice.’”

What kind of a home is that, where you cannot even be blunt with a kid for fear of hurting his feelings or whatever? It’s no service at all to that child, beyond shelter.


7 posted on 12/07/2007 5:47:22 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Vaquero
"The state law mandates that any business can post that it does not want CCW holders carrying in their premises and this Mall did just that."

That is the first I heard of this. I wonder why MSM did not mention that.

8 posted on 12/07/2007 5:48:15 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: CholeraJoe

We all know folks who really tried with either their own kids or fostering. I have seen some spectacular successes, but by the time there is a recognizable problem of this magnitude, it can take a number of miracles to turn some kids around.


9 posted on 12/07/2007 5:51:03 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I found it here yesterday
10 posted on 12/07/2007 5:51:16 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I went to the mall by us yesterday and noticed they also have listed no guns even with a ccw permit I will still carry mine rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.


11 posted on 12/07/2007 5:58:18 AM PST by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: bboop
Real mom and real dad kicked him out. Some bleeding-heart took him in.

Real mom and real dad divorced when he was 3. I think the kicking out was done by real dad and step-mom.

12 posted on 12/07/2007 6:01:08 AM PST by tsmith130
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I wish the "gun free mall" angle got some coverage. The gunman had to see the signs at the Mall entrance. The policy probably was so "soccer moms" could feel comfortable.
13 posted on 12/07/2007 6:01:59 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I just sent a link to Rush ....

..maybe he will publicize it.


14 posted on 12/07/2007 6:05:54 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: CholeraJoe
66 thousand a year for a troubled teen?

Somebody made a living off this troubled kid.

He wouldn't have been the best candidate, but in the good old
days he might have lied about his age, gotten into the Army and
gotten his head straight thanks to a DI.

And that wouldn't have cost taxpayers $265,000.
15 posted on 12/07/2007 6:07:35 AM PST by VOA
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Divorce is not just an “environmental problem”, as we’ve heard recently. It’s a social problem with huge consequences. Sometimes it’s necessary, but that doesn’t mean it’s free of consequences.


16 posted on 12/07/2007 6:10:45 AM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Vaquero

Good idea!


17 posted on 12/07/2007 6:12:16 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

We decide between two choices in this free society of ours:

1. We, as a body, determine him a potential risk and keep him incarcerated for his entire life.

or

2. We, as a body, determine him a potential risk and do not incarcerate him but live with the fact that dangers are a part of a free society, realizing that even option 1 does not guarantee there are no dangerous people roaming about.

As a free society, we usually go with option 2. We live with the risk and sometimes, though not often, suffer the consequences.


18 posted on 12/07/2007 6:16:13 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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"He struggled as far as education, following the rules, but you'd have never thought he was cable of that," said Principal Jim Glover........"
Sadly, he was very "cable" of that.
19 posted on 12/07/2007 6:17:17 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: VOA

I am so tired of hearing the media talk about blaming society and how “we failed” this insect. He was a bad seed. He snapped. End of story.

I think there should be some kind of law that they cannot give out the name of the suspect/shooter/murderer until after the victims have been named and shown proper respect. Once that has been accomplished, the MSM can go ahead and have their masturbatory field day with what Robbie did because he had a bad life.


20 posted on 12/07/2007 6:19:40 AM PST by LeftiesBinWhinin (Reach out and touch an Islamic extremist - with your shotgun.)
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