Posted on 12/06/2007 3:43:11 PM PST by Graybeard58
WASHINGTON -- Democrats turned back repeated efforts by Republican senators to soften the economic impact of a global warming bill before advancing it out of a Senate committee on Wednesday.
It was the first bill calling for mandatory U.S. limits on so-called greenhouse gases to be taken up in Congress since global warming emerged as an environmental issue more than two decades ago. The bill was approved 11-8 by the Environment and Public Works Committee.
GOP critics of the bill argued that limiting greenhouse gas emissions could become a hardship because of higher energy costs.
But Sen. John Warner of Virginia, a Republican co-sponsor who gave the bill legitimacy among many moderate GOP senators, called it ''a chance to give America our opportunity ... to be counted on this very, very important issue.''
The bill calls for the United States to cut carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 70 percent by 2050 from electric power plants, manufacturing and transportation.
It would create a ''cap-and-trade'' system whereby companies would have pollution allowances that they could sell if they went below the emission limits, or buy if they found they could not meet the requirements.
They're panning for gold to line their pockets.
No. Hansen's models in those days were predicting global cooling. When it became clear that his models were NFG, he had to (a) blame something, (b) figure out how to get his model back on track, so he invented a high CO2 climate sensitivity -- and global warming was born.
Can you get to Warners desk before you hurl?
No. This crap is being pushed by useful idiots who can’t balance their own check books and socialists who will balance their check books with our hard earned cash. I work around PhDs who think that adding Doctor to their name has made them experts on every subject they were too lazy or stupid to study.
Emissions from cars increased CO2 intentionally when catalytic converters hit the scene. There was intent to reduce CO and the converter makes it CO2. Irony is too mild a word. Guess we could all kill our catalytic converters and solve a lot of the supposed pollution of CO2.
No kidding! If you take the time, unless you have better things to do, and go through the IPCC Assessment Reports, there are four of them now, you will find that the discussion of the chemical and physical properties of the major so called "greenhouse" gasses, water vapor and CO2, as they relate to "Global Warming" are missing.
There ought to be a chapter filled with tables, charts, graphs and math describing the heat absorption curves and other properties of these two gasses, but instead we are treated to circumstantial evidence that is obviously cherry picked.
~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~
The fact that you're still using it shows that you're not on board with the concensus of your peers.
I went through college in the latter 1980’s, and looking back at the lack of rigor is galling. Upper division courses mostly graded on a curve; you could score in the 50’s on a test and still pass. I and my classmates understood that the curve was, essentially, saving our bacon (and our GPA’s), but it became a ripoff when we hit the unforgiving waters of real world Engineering demands.
Good thing I kept my textbooks, ‘cuz I’ve had to go back and learn quite a bit of it over again on my own time.
That’s been a couple of decades ago now, and the situation isn’t improving; at least not among kids with surnames like Smith, Jones, and Miller. Most of the ones with surnames you can’t pronounce would still get A’s even graded on a strict percentage basis.
College today is what High School was when you were there, and Elementary Schools are pretty much glorified pre-school/daycare centers, except when they’re being used as laboratories for Social Engineers.
bill # S.2191
Well, they do control Congress. They will do crap like this.
I understand why the Greenies stand by it. They've built their whole program on a big lie. Dismiss the role of CO2 emissions and the whole program comes crashing down and they have no reason to attempt to control economic output. Could you imagine academy award winning and nobel laureate PowerPoint presenter Gore admitting that he got it all wrong? Hardly. Like the weaseliest corporate weasel, he'll try to move past it and hope no one finds out he screwed up the research that's the basis of the bet-the-company corporate investment.
It's the stupid party that amazes me. How can they let this go without challenge? How can they allow watermelon (green on the outside, red in the middle) totalitarians perpetuate the big lie?
Sigh... The incompetence of the GOP never ceases to amaze me.
Socialism on display and the end of capitalism if a Dem wins the WH. Unless sane minds in the scientific community speak out, we are going to slide into a 3rd World status within the next two Dem administrations. Taxes will kill small business, the middle class, all for something unproven, inane and bad for the world economy. Not also to say that freedom and liberty will be constricted.
What's your source for this statement?
See post 56. Not IPCC, but is that what you’re talking about?
Sigh, etc. See my profile, point #5.
So there you have it, the WSJ spelled it out in more detail here. The WSJ refers to is as the "availability cascade", commonly known as the rumor mill. You can test the hypothesis by asking the next person you meet who is saying we are all going to die "How do you know this"? End your conversation with "I wonder why they never talk about the sun when discussing global warming".
What's further maddening, the proof is out there. Recently a satellite study was concluded and it found no unique signature for CO2 induced global warming. The paper is here, read the abbreviated short version. David Evans, a former supporter of the nonsense before he concluded this study, had set out to prove the unique CO2 signature was present. As with many things, he was wrong so he flipped sides.
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