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History has shown that multicultural/multiethnic societies are basically unstable.
1 posted on 12/06/2007 2:20:13 PM PST by westcoastwillieg
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History has shown that multicultural/multiethnic societies are basically unstable.

Multicultural yes, multiethnic no.
2 posted on 12/06/2007 2:21:22 PM PST by Borges
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To: westcoastwillieg

A lesson for the USA, if we will listen.


3 posted on 12/06/2007 2:22:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: westcoastwillieg

“Civilizations aren’t murdered.
They commit suicide.”


4 posted on 12/06/2007 2:22:59 PM PST by VOA
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45K cars?....at $5K each, very low average of new/used, that’s just shy of 1/4 billion USDs. Talking about some real money there.


6 posted on 12/06/2007 2:29:22 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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To: westcoastwillieg

History has also shown that allowing people to do what they want to do is not productive to your society.


7 posted on 12/06/2007 2:32:27 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: westcoastwillieg

Despite Sarkozy, it may be too late for France.


8 posted on 12/06/2007 2:33:53 PM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: westcoastwillieg

If things keep going the way they are in France, they will eventually and, ironically, surrender to themselves.


10 posted on 12/06/2007 2:49:58 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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Guesse there aren’t laws in france allowing ya to shoot some s.o.b. trying to steel or destroy you or your property.
You try to torch my car and I’ll shoot your ass if i see ya.


11 posted on 12/06/2007 2:51:26 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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I’m still waiting for the French backlash. I do believe it will come and it may not be nice. I could be wrong.


12 posted on 12/06/2007 2:54:05 PM PST by BBell
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To: westcoastwillieg

“multi-culture” equals a fragmented society. Doesn’t this lead to a breakdown of insitutions in that society?


14 posted on 12/06/2007 2:59:30 PM PST by Nanny7
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To: westcoastwillieg

Better late than never. Start the mass deportations now.


15 posted on 12/06/2007 3:00:42 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: westcoastwillieg
At some point in time we went from a melting pot to a society that “celebrates diversity.”

At some point (When the streets are burning in the US) people here will realize that this does not work. Never has, never will. You can not take competing and nonconforming world views that are mutually exclusive all wanting to dominate, throw them together, and think that will end pretty. Once certain population groups achieve critical mass, they will redefine society as in Sudan today or Lebanon a some years back. We have “nations” for a reason, and these boarders are not coincidentally drawn around areas where people with a common language and culture live.

16 posted on 12/06/2007 3:08:33 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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These riots are nothing new.

France is nominally a Christian country. Although separation of Church and State is enshrined both in French law and in daily practice, some national holidays – as well as school vacations - are based on the traditional Roman Catholic Church calendar. When the holiday/vacation was established, there was no significant Muslim presence in France, as there is nowadays

Since the passage of the 1905 law, religion in France has been considered private - and has no place in public life. That is why, for example, a young Muslim girl cannot wear her hijab to a state school and why a Sikh cannot wear his turban and why a Jew cannot wear his yarmulke (aka kippah) and why a Catholic cannot wear a conspicuous cross. Civil servants on the job are bound by the same restraints. The French feel that allowing the symbols of belief to be displayed in public, state buildings or by a civil servant is proselytization – or the intent to proselytize - for that religion. Eliminating the symbol simply eliminates any and all questions of indoctrination or influence or aggression on other individuals. In this way freedom to believe – and, importantly, not to believe - in any God or higher power whatsoever is guaranteed to all. Of course, one can wear what one wishes on the street, in the supermarket or at the opera. That is not the issue. Those are public places … but are not dependent on the Republic's finances, which is the issue. It couldn't be more clear.

Thousands, evem three years ago,(12,000 say the organizers; 5,000 say the police) marched in the streets of Paris, including FreeMasons, to preserve the Law of 1905. The marches aka riots depending on who is writing the news story still ocurr to this day as do marches on various agendas on city streets in the USA.

Should government money be used to finance the construction of mosques and Sikh temples, so that Muslims and Sikhs can also benefit from certain dispositions of the 1905 Law pertaining to the upkeep of "cultural" venues --under the same law the answer is no.

France, far from those "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys" depicted in "The Simpsons," has distinguished itself (since the Paris terror bombings of 1986, especially) as a nation uniquely disposed to trample toes of intolerant faith. For better or for worse, the practice of religion – since the Revolution and the Law of Separation (1905), especially – has become, for the State, no less than a matter of public order and public safety. For this reason, the policing of even "non-violent radicals" and radical clerics has become something of a national pastime.

Consider the case of Salafist cleric Abdelkader Bouziane, deported back to Algeria in April 2004 for an interview, published in the local Lyon Mag, in which the imam defends polygamy and promotes, "in certain cases," the stoning of adulterous wives. The Ministry of the Interior slapped Bouziane with an order of expulsion within days of his remarks, on the strength of a prior order (signed by Nicolas Sarkozy) that identified Bouziane as a danger to State and to public safety. This, in turn, allowed the government to ignore established protections for the safeguard of resident aliens, and to deport the cleric back to Oran. Riots which hit a Paris suburb this week were the work of a "thugocracy" of criminals and not the result of social deprivation, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Thursday.

Sarkozy's remarks came three days after dozens of police were injured in clashes with rioters following the death of two boys in a collision with a police car in the suburb of Villiers-le-Bel, to the north of Paris.

"I reject any form of other-worldly naivety that wants to see a victim of society in anyone who breaks the law, a social problem in any riot," he said in a speech to police officers.

"What happened in Villiers-le-Bel has nothing to do with a social crisis. It has everything to do with a 'thugocracy'."

This week's unrest reawakened memories of the violence that struck many poor French suburbs in 2005 when rioting youths torched thousands of cars during weeks of clashes with police.

A massive police presence over the past two nights has so far restored a tense calm to Villiers-le-Bel but the traces of the violence, in the form of a burned-out library and car showroom and smashed shop windows and bus shelters, remain.

The 2005 riots,(mentioned above) the worst urban violence in France in 40 years, provoked months of agonized debate over the state of the grim housing estates that ring many French cities and the integration of millions of black and North African immigrants.

But Sarkozy, who struck a similarly uncompromising tone when he was interior minister in 2005, said the answer to the riots did not lie in spending more on improving facilities.

"The response to the riots isn't yet more money on the backs of the tax payers. The response to the riots is to arrest the rioters," he said.

In 2005 Sarkozy triggered outrage, including among many people unconnected with the unrest, when he branded the rioters as "racaille" ("scum" or "rabble").

The "quartiers" or "cites," as the estates are known, are a world away from the prosperous centers of cities like Paris, blighted by high crime and unemployment, poor transport links and run-down housing..."

Visit France. You might be surprised of the popular support of Americans and their similar ideals on related current issues.

17 posted on 12/06/2007 3:08:55 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: westcoastwillieg

Revolting


18 posted on 12/06/2007 3:09:24 PM PST by Vet_6780
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To: westcoastwillieg

World Net Daily ^ has their agenda in reporting too. ;)
Always more to the story than what you read.
How can a story be made to read two entirely diff ways—creativity with just a touch of ignorance.


20 posted on 12/06/2007 3:13:26 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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Again, I’ll suggest the French police obtain two things.

A super-lubricating chemical available for a decade that when sprayed on asphalt or concrete makes it too slick to walk across. In addition, a large amount of the less-than-lethal “sticky goo”, successfully used against a riot by US Marines in Somalia.

First the police spray the roads and sidewalks on three sides of the riot, leaving a few police behind to catch any rioters who try to exit those ways—on their hands and knees. Then they spray a barrier strip in front of them, will a small access on one side for entry and exit.

Then they advance over that small strip, spraying the sticky goo at the rioters. This is an effective means of incapacitation, and the sticky goo can only be removed with solvent. It won’t be needed for most, only for those brandishing weapons.

The concept is to arrest 100% of a given group of rioters, then transport them out into the countryside for processing. By arresting them ALL, it kills rioting faster than anything. As soon as a policeman shows up, the riot ends or they know they might be all arrested.

France is fortunate in having low tolerance for troublesome foreigners. So any rioter who can be deported, should be.

Of course, in the process of removing sticky goo, if they have to shave arrested rioters, so that they are both bald and beardless, well, that is a hazard of rioting.


24 posted on 12/06/2007 3:33:50 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: westcoastwillieg; Atlantic Bridge

Electing Sarkozy wasn’t suicidal.


25 posted on 12/06/2007 3:44:56 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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