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Landscaper Says Romney Never Insisted that Laborers Be Legal
Fox News ^ | Dec. 6, 2007

Posted on 12/06/2007 12:17:58 PM PST by meandog

The landscaper who Mitt Romney fired earlier this week for continuing to employ illegal immigrants says the termination boils down to little more than politics.

The GOP presidential candidate cut ties with Ricardo Saenz, of Community Lawn Service in Chelsea, Mass., in anticipation of a Boston Globe article reporting that the company employed undocumented workers a year after the hiring practices were first revealed. Romney said he gave the company a second chance and that "the company's failure to comply with the law is disappointing and inexcusable."

But Saenz told FOX25 in Boston that Romney did not demand that the company not employ illegal immigrants...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; dirtbag; immigrantlist; liar; romulan; toolazytosearch
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Engage cloaking device...pay no attention to landscaper, other criticism.
1 posted on 12/06/2007 12:17:59 PM PST by meandog
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To: meandog

Romney never asked, and Saenz never told.


2 posted on 12/06/2007 12:19:01 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: meandog

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1935753/posts


3 posted on 12/06/2007 12:21:45 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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OK, regardless of what Romney knew or didn’t know...that’s the biggest bunch of bullsh*t for an excuse I have ever heard in my life.


4 posted on 12/06/2007 12:22:23 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: meandog

It’s now the responsibility of the customer to demand that the business not break the law in its hiring practices?


5 posted on 12/06/2007 12:22:57 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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It’s now the responsibility of the customer to demand that the business not break the law in its hiring practices?

Only if you want to be President.

6 posted on 12/06/2007 12:23:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: meandog
So Meandog, still hanging out here doing the Democrat Party’s PR dirty work hmm?

How do you like the Socialists Senator, Jim Webb (S-VA), you spend all your time here last year helping elect with your postings?

Like him better then George Allen? You remember Allen, who has a Lifetime American Conservative Union rating 92%?

Or maybe you come here to admit you have been totally wrong about Iraq from day one now that your, and Jim Webb's, Surrender Now dogmas have been proven to be such a disasterous ignorant fraud?

Wander back to Moveon.org fool, Freepers know which side you play for.

7 posted on 12/06/2007 12:24:22 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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It’s now the responsibility of the customer to demand that the business not break the law in its hiring practices?

Not the issue...the issue is whether the Romulan told the truth or not about claim he instructed the landscaper not to employ illegals. I tend to believe the landscaper over Slick Willard.

8 posted on 12/06/2007 12:25:58 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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Curious, how do you square this attack on Romney with your self proclaimed support for John “Amnesty” McCain?
9 posted on 12/06/2007 12:26:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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Is Ricardo Saenz, of Community Lawn Service in Chelsea, Mass being investigated by ICE yet?


10 posted on 12/06/2007 12:29:35 PM PST by ASA Vet
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Ricardo may have done a job for Mitt... but I bet he gets a steady paycheck from The Globe.


11 posted on 12/06/2007 12:29:43 PM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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Romney says landscaper never insisted he was a criminal.


12 posted on 12/06/2007 12:31:41 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Romney did not demand that the company not employ illegal immigrants...

Obedience of the law is demanded; not asked as a favor.
- Theodore Roosevelt

13 posted on 12/06/2007 12:32:01 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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I tend to believe the landscaper over Slick Willard.

Oh, you do? Well then there’s no problem:

Saenz also insisted to the Globe that the workers he hired were legal, but he did not show reporters their papers.

14 posted on 12/06/2007 12:32:10 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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It’s now the responsibility of the customer to demand that the business not break the law in its hiring practices?

If you're running for office and had been previously told the same business was hiring illegals in the past and had decided to give the business a "second chance" after that, then yes, I would assume you would have both the right and responsibility to demand that the business not screw you over when you're going to be under a microscope.

15 posted on 12/06/2007 12:35:43 PM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Nobody told me not to paint the cat...” What, ya gotta specify no criminals now?


16 posted on 12/06/2007 12:35:46 PM PST by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: ASA Vet
Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor.

This jerk needs to be prosecuted.

17 posted on 12/06/2007 12:36:14 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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I think I am going to turn myself in to ICE because I might have ate in a restaurant that had an illegal washing dishes.

Fredheads, if the exact same incidents occurred with Fred Thompson would you care a whit?

18 posted on 12/06/2007 12:36:22 PM PST by Plutarch
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Fredheads, if the exact same incidents occurred with Fred Thompson would you care a whit?

My initial reaction to the story was that it was a weak attempt to "gotcha" Romney. (I can even provide a link to my original comments if you like.) I still think it's not a particularly strong thing to nail him on, but the fact that the same company had indeed been using illegals in the past, and Romney knew about it, does mean that he should indeed have insisted on a "no illegals" policy when giving the company a second chance.

Now what we have here is the company saying that no such demand was made, which conflicts with Romney's position that he did so. I have no idea who is right, but such discrepancies will give the story "legs".

19 posted on 12/06/2007 12:40:23 PM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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Fredheads, if the exact same incidents occurred with Fred Thompson would you care a whit?

As a proud FredHead I will be glad to answer your question.

The answer is a resounding YES!

It undermines Mitt's credibility in his new-found anti-illegal alien fervor.

It plain words, it means Mitt is faking it!
20 posted on 12/06/2007 12:42:10 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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