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NIE: An Abrupt About-Face ("hyper partisan anti-Bush officials" at work?)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/12/nie_an_abrupt_aboutface.asp ^

Posted on 12/05/2007 12:47:20 PM PST by HD1200

As many recognize, the latest NIE on Iran’s nuclear weapons program directly contradicts what the U.S. Intelligence Community was saying just two years previously. And it appears that this about-face was very recent. How recent?

Consider that on July 11, 2007, roughly four or so months prior to the most recent NIE’s publication, Deputy Director of Analysis Thomas Fingar gave the following testimony before the House Armed Services Committee (emphasis added):

Iran and North Korea are the states of most concern to us. The United States’ concerns about Iran are shared by many nations, including many of Iran’s neighbors. Iran is continuing to pursue uranium enrichment and has shown more interest in protracting negotiations and working to delay and diminish the impact of UNSC sanctions than in reaching an acceptable diplomatic solution. We assess that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons--despite its international obligations and international pressure. This is a grave concern to the other countries in the region whose security would be threatened should Iran acquire nuclear weapons.

This paragraph appeared under the subheading: "Iran Assessed As Determined to Develop Nuclear Weapons." And the entirety of Fingar’s 22-page testimony was labeled "Information as of July 11, 2007." No part of it is consistent with the latest NIE, in which our spooks tell us Iran suspended its covert nuclear weapons program in 2003 "primarily in response to international pressure" and they "do not know whether (Iran) currently intends to develop nuclear weapons."

The inconsistencies are more troubling when we realize that, according to the Wall Street Journal, Thomas Fingar is one of the three officials who were responsible for crafting the latest NIE. The Journal cites "an intelligence source" as describing Fingar and his two colleagues as "hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials."

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To: FARS
Ping me to that if it shows up. Again, thanks for keeping me in the loop. I always learn from your posts.
61 posted on 12/05/2007 9:26:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


62 posted on 12/05/2007 9:36:54 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Thanks FARS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1935211/posts?page=37#37


63 posted on 12/05/2007 9:50:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, December 5, 2007 _________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FARS; All

I agree with Rush .. these people are downright scary.

This is flat out TREASON .. and I can’t help but wonder how much longer Americans are going to put up with it.


64 posted on 12/05/2007 9:56:54 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: HD1200; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

We need a monster link thread for this... for the pdf links on the UN, EU3, timelines and hearings, media reports (especially Britain)/MEMRI/Chartier and past weapons inspectors fired because Larijani thought they pressed to hard.

Where’s Gen. Sada and the others btw?


65 posted on 12/06/2007 5:54:35 AM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I’m thinking they stopped because they were waiting for the equipment. They’ve cut seals since then... can’t wait for the explanation for that. Or the proof of ANYTHING they’ve put forward... how do they know, by what methods... eyes and hands on? When an NIE tells you it uses open sources... like us, we’re in a world of _____.

If that’s the case, we have way more info... and it’s not saying what they’re saying.

Let the investigation and trials begin. Had the leaked media and folks on the hill been smacked in the beginning, we wouldn’t have this problem (as well as getting rid of the fifth column when W moved in).

Funny, I would think the dems would be scared as hell.
They know Mahmood has said what he’s going to do... many times. Now all of a sudden the intel drops in their lap, they want a dem president... what will happen when Iran does launch? You’d think they’d learn from the Clinton WH and Al Q.


66 posted on 12/06/2007 6:02:32 AM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: billbears

Where’s the proof that they were running before 2003, the proof they stopped and the proof they haven’t done anything since?


67 posted on 12/06/2007 6:18:20 AM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: AliVeritas
Now we have this....

U.S. Says Military Notes Led to Shift on Iran
New York Times ^ | December 6, 2007 | DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN LEE MYERS

I have my doubts...and the military in the headline is the Iranian Military....

69 posted on 12/06/2007 7:56:14 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: AliVeritas

Your take sounds right to me. And yes, the Dem position is confusing. It sounds like they are assuming Israel will take care of the problem. They are prepared to cluck with disapproval when Israel acts, and secretly think, “Good, that’s taken care of, and we didn’t have to do anything.” It won’t work that way of course, we will have to be involved if Israel acts. Dems are blinded by their desire to win the upcoming election.


70 posted on 12/06/2007 9:54:41 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Fred Thompson's Federalism is right on.)
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To: FARS

Great link FARS ~ I passed it around to my email friends.

Thanks!

Be Ever Vigilant!


71 posted on 12/06/2007 12:21:55 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: billbears

Ah, hit a nerve, did I?

Thanks for clarifying you belong on my “do not trust” list.


72 posted on 12/06/2007 2:51:48 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth

Oh no you didn’t hit a nerve whatsoever. Well other than perhaps a small bit of anger over the absolute blindness some are willing to follow Bush’s twisted logic. Even when the evidence points otherwise


73 posted on 12/06/2007 3:10:45 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: All; holdonnow; sono; sofaman; Cindy

Psst.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/12/shipment-to-ira.html


74 posted on 12/06/2007 6:59:08 PM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: blackie

Hope you all enjoy it.


75 posted on 12/06/2007 11:10:43 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

Immensely!!


76 posted on 12/07/2007 10:56:23 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: All

Check this out... Scroll down past our lovely pageant queen (if that doesn’t make you say America F-— Yeah, nothing will), the next two posts are Mahmood’s announcing going needing 60,000 centrifuges up from 3,000 and another denying he stopped the program as was reported via NIE.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/


77 posted on 12/07/2007 12:20:52 PM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: Deathmonger
Have you read the public summary of the Estimate?
It is contradictory holding that no foreign interfefence pushed Iran in 2003, and gets stupider from there.

Some day the Iranian report leaked .. err brought by Gen Ashgari will be seen for what it is. Sadly this will only come after a conventional or nuclear war.

78 posted on 12/11/2007 3:10:22 AM PST by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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