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Study Finds Certain Ethanol Blends Can Provide Better Fuel Economy Than Gasoline (???)
www.greencarcongress.com ^ | 12/05/07 | Staff

Posted on 12/05/2007 9:29:42 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: from occupied ga
ch3ch2oh + o2 = co2 + h2o. ch3(ch2)nch3 + o2 = co2 + h2o Same combustion products. besides you can't get any more work out of steam than the energy put into it by combustion

You get it! There "AINT NO" free ride in thermodynamics.

Until enthalpy and entropy and Gibbs free energy are shown to be false (they will not be) you can count on the following:

1. If it is beer, wine, or spirits and has a twist off cap or pop top you really should not drink that crap.

2. Good wine and whiskey has a cork in the top and good beer needs a beer can opener to get to it but the best comes out of a tap and it is not Budweiser nor any others of its ilk. If you do not like a good bitter you really should probably drink Budweiser or even worse Coors lite. I drank one of those once. God, it was vile.

3. In reference to enthalpy, entropy and Gibbs free energy, it without any doubt shows ethanol as a fuel source in an internal combustion engine most definitely sucks big time.

4. Water is for fighting and whiskey is for drinking, however it is quite acceptable to put a very small amount of water in a good single malt.

5. If you put coke or any other mixer with single malt scotch or Irish Whiskey, St Peter has a very hot corner of hell reserved for such blasphemers as this.

6. Anything else you need to know about ethanol is not important.

101 posted on 12/05/2007 10:11:55 PM PST by cpdiii
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To: cpdiii
You get it! There "AINT NO" free ride in thermodynamics.

There are many here who don't. There are people on this site who believe that 100 mpg carbutetors exist (supressed by the oil companies of course), that ethanol is a viable energy source (ignoring the large energy requirement needed to manufacture the stuff), and that you can continue to increase the efficiency of automobile engines by engineering (folks who never heard of and who cannot comprehend the 2nd law - this would appear to be 100% of Kongress and 98% of the US voting populace), and that George Bush is a conservative (but that's a topic for another thread)

Kongress in passing its absurd CAFE requirement shows that it thinks it has the power to repeal the laws of thermodynamics. These people aren't fit to govern an ant farm let alone the USA.

102 posted on 12/06/2007 3:34:47 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: jaydubya2
"The results of this study seem to defy the laws of physics..."

Exactly. My FFV Nissan Titan states that it gets 17 mpg highway with gasoline, and 10 mpg with Ethanaol. Mileage is based on how many engine RPM's can turn the drive shaft. RPM's are based on the amount of BTU's combusted that can drive the pistons to create the motion directionally to driveshaft. The btu content per pound of gasoline is approximately and variably 18,700-19,100. Ethanol 11,700.

Is ND a corn state?

103 posted on 12/06/2007 4:03:25 AM PST by catfish1957 (In honor of my 5 Confederate ancestors whodefended their homeland during the War of Northn Agression)
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