Posted on 12/04/2007 4:13:37 AM PST by Liz
CLEAR LAKE, Iowa - Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rudy Giuliani have seen their once-formidable leads sliced in a new national poll - she lost 11 points while Giuliani plummeted by 9 points in the last month. Clinton dropped to 39% from 50%.....Giuliani dropped to 25% from 34% over the same period.
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"'Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask,' said Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirit's robe,' but I see something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw.'
'It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it,' was the Spirit's sorrowful reply. 'Look here.'
From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children; wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment.
'Oh, Man. look here. Look, look, down here.' exclaimed the Ghost.
They were a boy and a girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread.
Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude.
'Spirit. are they yours.' Scrooge could say no more.
'They are Man's,' said the Spirit, looking down upon them. 'And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy,for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless thewriting be erased. Deny it.' cried the Spirit, stretching outits hand towards the city. 'Slander those who tell it ye.Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And abide the end.'
'Have they no refuge or resource.' cried Scrooge.
'Are there no prisons.' said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. 'Are there no workhouses.'"
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton responded, "The truth is, Barack Obama doesn't need lectures in political courage from someone who followed George Bush to war in Iraq, gave him the benefit of the doubt on Iran, supported NAFTA and opposed ethanol until she decided to run for president."That's not good enough, Obama. You want the job, or don't you? Or are you just holding out for VP. Go after the galaxy of ethical abuses in the Beasts past. Speak now, or forever hold your piece.
The predictions we made earlier this year are coming to pass. The more people look at Giuliani and Hillary Clinton, the less popular they are. By the time the primaries are here, I doubt any candidate can win a majority of delegates. This could turn into a back-room power-brokering convention year.
And who in their right mind would mourn the loss of two New York liberals running for the Presidency?
Candidates walk on eggs——Hil took a huge gamble yesterday criticizing Obama. People will probably vote Obama B/C of her criticisms.
Course, Hill figures she has to halt her slide downward into oblivion..........the damage she did to herself over licensing is huge. Amd she did it to herself.
Obama figures if she’s that good at destroying herself, why should he jump in and help her.
I think Giuliani was destined to flop bigtime.......all the dirt oozing out has helped bury him. Not to mention the dirt yet to come about him and his mistress cavorting on public funds.
But Hillary could have survived-—except for the hole she dug for herself with the licensing issue. She walked herself into a snake pit from which there is no return.
Yeah-—that puts it in its proper prersepctive.
Hillary and Rudy have different reasons for slipping. Bolshecrats want nothing more than a winner, any perception of vulnerability and out she goes. In ‘04 they thought they could fool the people with a phony war hero.
Rudy has a problem with principles, Republicans want someone closer to ideal.
You’ve got a point. But still, negative ads do work. And the Beast has high negatives, even among the Democrat base. Sometimes sitting there doing nothing and letting an opportunity slip by is as dangerous as a swing-and-a-miss.
I think Obama should take her on regarding ethics. He can work it in to the whole anti-war thing. She voted for the war, now opposes the war. And look at all those ethical lapses going on. It all adds up to one thing: a candidate we can’t trust.
Something like that. I leave it to the pros to fill in the details. Right now, doubt about the Beast is glowing and warming and you know what they say about striking while the iron is hot...
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Giuliani Still Seen as Most Electable Republican; Romney, McCain, Huckabee Close Behind
The uusal strategy is that the candidate remains above the fray and lets surrogates pitch the muballs-—so it is indeed indicatve of Hill’s desperation that she herself is flinging mud at Obama.
If I were Obama, I’d trot out Michele Barack-—that girl’s got some sistah sass he could use right now.
You’re probably right. I’m just itching to see the Bitch lose, and hoping Obama doesn’t end up giving her a pass. I would really love to see him kick her while she’s down... though I admit, that might not be the image of himself he wants to convey to the party faithful. I’m half tempted to send Obama some money, except I’m afraid that act might make me vomit for a week and a half or so.
Nobody wants another 4-8 years of the Clintons.
The parsing of words-—the endless spin cycles——Carville.
He’s always unzipped and she’s too combative.
When she purses her lips and inflates her squirrely cheeks, Hil reminds everyone of their prissy spinster aunt in a snit when a ten-year old tracked dirt on her clean floor.
Who needs that in the WH?
She’s still pretty formidable, though. How many of her “supporters” are simply scared shitless not to be seen on her side if she DOES happen to get in. Her enemy list is going to be long, and you don’t want to be on it, especially if you’re in the RAT party.
I think that’s THE reason why Obama is holding back so far. He’s fundamentally a coward and doesn’t want Mommy Dearest to be REALLY angry with him. (He might pee his panties.)
The Democrat base wants an anti-war candidate - one who is clean of the taint of the Iraq War resolution. Hillary Clinton cannot measure up.
The Republican base wants a social conservative - they also want someone tough on terror, but all the GOP candidates except one are tough on terror - and Giuliani cannot measure up.
People look at a lifelong family man like Romney or a Christian preacher like Huckabee and see men who actually try to live conservative social values in their day-to-day lives.
Putting aside the fact that Romney and Huckabee's policies are from from purist conservatism, their life narratives are just more appealing to conservatives.
We know Hillary answered her true position on this a couple debates ago. She forgot at the moment that most ppl are against this. So she flip-flopped for the general election. She’s getting booo’s now for this by potential primary voters.
Obama should constantly remind primary voters that he supports drivers licenses for illegals (he’s really in favor of comprehensive reform too). He will gain alot of support of ppl voting for the democratic nominee.
I think Hillary really believes she’s going to be the nominee, and is saying things meant for general election voters.
***I think Obama should take her on regarding ethics. He can work it in to the whole anti-war thing. She voted for the war, now opposes the war. And look at all those ethical lapses going on. It all adds up to one thing: a candidate we can’t trust.***
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