Dr. Ron Paul and organizer Stephen Vincent
Posted on 12/03/2007 8:05:44 PM PST by jdm
If the CNN GOP debate proved anything, it is that Ron Paul is not going gently into that goodnight, no matter how badly his fellow Republicans wished he would.
Not since the days of Ross Perot has a candidate flown in the face of the American political Wehrmacht. The public response has never been as robust as Paul's supporters, who possess every level of education, variety of profession, and personal value structure imaginable.
The Paul supporters put their money where there mouths are, and the coffers for Paul's campaign continue to swell.
One independent organizer, Trevor Lyman, an online music promoter, was the catalyst behind the Guy Fawkes Day raise of $4.2 million.
The Paul base are tech savvy and know how to network and organize, and their efforts are paying off.
The December 16 anniversary of the 1773 Boston Tea Party protest of taxation without representation is the next big push, as nearly 24,000 people have pledged to donate $100.
Republican candidate, Ron Paul, spoke in a message emailed to his supporters today.
Paul expressed his dissatisfaction with the CNN debate and the bias of limiting his time to speak but he did say that he was happy that McCain launched his premeditated attack toward him.
Paul said, “Mainstream politicians never attack an opponent they think is far behind. The McCain campaign, we've heard, is worried sick about New Hampshire, and they thought a slam at me would help. Ha! Of course, it only strengthened our forces.”
Describing the number of supporters that turned out outside the debate in St Petersburg Florida for the debate, Paul said, “We, on the other hand, had about 500 enthusiastic revolutionaries, plus a boat, a trolley, and two planes towing lighted signs. As I looked out at the crowd, I thought: the establishment has no idea of what they are facing. We have an army of freedom, prosperity, and peace.”
“The British also thought they had no problem with the Americans--until Yorktown.” Paul continued, “Rudy Giuliani walked up to me and said, ‘Oooh, you sure have a LOT of supporters.’ “It’s only the beginning, I told him.”
Paul also said, “The military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS don’t like what we’re doing. But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future.”
One of Paul's supporters in Los Angeles is Stephen Vincent, who has organized "The Freedom Message" - a live call-in internet talk radio show which chronicles and supports the growth of the Freedom Movement and the campaign of Congressman Ron Paul for President. LINK
This YouTube channel is an outlet for archived programs overlayed with video content, related video productions and Steven Vincent's VideoBlog.
Monsters had a chance to speak with Vincent today.
What turnout are you anticipating for the December 16 "Tea Party" in Santa Monica?
Stephen Vincent: There does seem to be some buzz growing around this and folks are coming from as far away as Santa Barbara, Ventura and Riverside. It’s always tough to call. I would guesstimate 100-125 people.
How and why did you get involved in the Ron Paul movement?
Stephen Vincent: The country is no longer ruled by law but rather by men (and women). There is a corrupt plutocracy ruling over us which disregards the constitution and if we as a people do not take decisive action it will be our near term fate to be subjected to dictatorship, unending war and economic collapse. Ron Paul stands for the rule of law, the Constitution and government of, by and for the people.
Why are both the "liberal" and "conservative" mainstream press so negative towards Paul and his supporters, in your opinion?
Stephen Vincent: The old left/right, Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Conservative political paradigm is breaking down. Both sides of the false paradigm have vested interests in its maintenance. Ron Paul and his message of freedom heralds the new paradigm: Constitutionalist vs. Statist.
Statists, whether of the “left” or “right” varieties believe that the State is the solution to every problem. Constitutionalists believe in the rights of the individual and that rule of law protects the individual and society from the tyranny of the State.
The Ron Paul Revolution is a revolution on a paradigmatic level. The body politic Americana is being radically reconfigured at this very moment and will never be the same.
If Paul is shut out of the GOP convention, will you urge him run as an Independent?
Stephen Vincent: I will support an Independent or Third Party run by Congressman Paul and would urge him to do so in the event that he does not win the Republican Party nomination.
Courtesy Ping
The term "military-industril complex" has been 99.999999999% the province of paranoid blame-America moonbats for at least the last 30 years. Ron Paul is not only one of those paranoid blame-America moonbats, he has specifically aided the enemy in wartime. No parsing on your part is going to change those things.
Really? You may want to talk to the US Shrimp Farming Industry before you proclaim that.
What worked for a mostly agrarian republic in the age of wooden ships and currently work for nations like Switzerland is not applicable to this nation in this era. While we must pick our stands well (unlike the Clinton Administration's involvement in ex-Yugoslavia), and when we fight, we must have a plan for victory (a serious flaw in the Bush Administration's pre-Petraeus handling of Iraq), the United States cannot be a neutral power due to our very size and the malevolent nature of our rivals, from the Nazis and the Japanese through the Communists, to the Muslim jihadists, the Russians and the Chinese today. I suspect that George Washington and Thomas jefferson would agree if they were around today, rather than two centuries ago.
And if you think the media isn't biased, then the maroon here definitely isn't Paul.
No, linking such disparate entities as water-boarders, The Fed, the Vestigial Media, etc. in a sentence that implies he is being persecuted by them is paranoid.
While each of those entities exist, Ron Paul is as significant as a bump on a Gnats butt to any of them.
Ron Paul, how about admitting that you are just as delusional about Radical Islam as Neville Chamberlain was about Herr Hitler in 1938!?
Chamberlain thought that Hitler was "acting out" because of the poor treatment Germany had received from the Allies after WWI. He thought he could appease Hitler by making overtures and concessions to Germany and Italy. The result was Anschluss, Lebensraum and Blitzkrieg.
Ron Paul thinks Radical Islam is "acting out" because of the poor treatment Arabia has received from the United States and its Allies after WWII and The Gulf War. The Result of a Ron Paul Administration would be just as horrendous as was Chamberlain's government.
"anti-American enough for a blame America first coward like cut and run."
Use your noodle. You are making "America" synonymous with foreign policy. The implication there is that ANY foreign policy that America goes by is automatically right. By that "logic", anyone who criticized Clinton's foreign policy was "blaming America first", since to you, evidently, America is synonymous with foreign policy. Can a foreign policy EVER be wrong or immoral? Can a foreign policy ever go against our constitution or principles that we are supposed to believe in?
If the answer is yes, then stop with the moronic and deceptive use of phrases like "Blame America" and recognize that disagreeing with a foreign policy is not anti-American because a particular foreign policy is not synonymous with America. In fact, if the foreign policy itself is unconstitutional and bad for America, then what would be anti-American is cheering for it. Btw, this was discussed here as well: Click
Sadly, you may be right. But let's hope they surprise us.
He never said they were colluding. He said they were all opposed to him. That means that each group or institution is, for its own reasons, opposed to his candidacy. As I stated in my previous post, there are logical reasons for each one. There’s no conspiracy, and he’s not claiming there is one. He’s simply saying that there’s a lot of negative, powerful forces that don’t want him to win.
Therefore, if I simply disregard those assertions, the remainder of your screed is selected (cherry-picked) quotes that happen to support your opinions.
By the way, why is Ron Paul, a Libertarian, running on the Republican ticket?
Right, they oppose him independently, the administration and nation having already been hijacked by the neocons.
And But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future. isn't a slap at those not applauding him as non-American.
Anybody who wants to cut off the money to supply our troops who are in harms way what they need to survive and win the WOT is anti-American. Cut and run and his democratic allies are anti-American.
Cut and run said it was the United States that was to blame for 9/11 because we did not do enough to appease his terrorist buddies. Is that not blaming America first. He never blames the terrorists, only America.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K02
..and this is just for the 08 election cycle.. it doesn’t really go into his history.
No, he said that an intervenionist foreign policy has consequences. Please answer with a yes or no, does a foreign policy EVER have negative consequences? It is the Bush/Clinton foreign policy he disagrees with, not America. Once again, you are trying to make America synonymous with a particular foreign policy - that is either dishonest or ignorant.
Dunno where you get that from my post. I was referrering to Paul's blaming America for terrorism.
Didn't Ronnie at one time say he wouldn't run third party? Not sure of that. But that wouldn't make any difference anyway. Maybe he'll run with Kucinich as his Veep. (What a pair!)
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