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Iraq: We Must Remain Committed (Viet Nam truth told by Gen. Giap)
NewsMax ^ | 10-3-07 | Geoff Metcalf

Posted on 12/03/2007 3:23:05 PM PST by STARWISE

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Rush read this today... worth repeating.

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RUSH: How many of you remember the name General Giap from the North Vietnamese army? General Giap, G-i-a-p is how you spell it, but pronounce it General Giap. He was a very famous, knowledgeable general in the North Vietnamese army.

He's published his memoirs and here's a pull quote:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender.

It was the same at the battle of Tet. You defeated us. We knew it. We thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice that your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefield. We were ready to surrender. You had won."

He makes the point the Vietnam War was not lost in Vietnam; it was lost here.

That's why I keep telling everybody that the Drive-Bys were trying to do the same thing in Iraq that they did in Vietnam for a host of reasons, not the least of which among them was to reestablish their own ability to influence people into the United States losing a war that the media was opposed to.

Scary, scary stuff.

1 posted on 12/03/2007 3:23:06 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: SE Mom; Laverne; Lancey Howard; Enchante; MNJohnnie; AliVeritas; SoldierDad; mware; mdittmar; ...

PING~~!


2 posted on 12/03/2007 3:25:27 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
old news that most VN vets knew.....same democratic tactics
3 posted on 12/03/2007 3:27:36 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: STARWISE

We were sure as hell winning when I was medevaced out!


4 posted on 12/03/2007 3:28:13 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: STARWISE

General Giap is a more honorable man than John Kerry........


5 posted on 12/03/2007 3:28:37 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

General Giap is an honorable man. John Kerry is a traitorous dog!


6 posted on 12/03/2007 3:31:43 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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I had General Giap’s book. He also said that he was ready to give up when he noticed that the anti-war demonstrators were starting to have an effect. The anti-war demonstrations gave him the courage to keep fighting.


7 posted on 12/03/2007 3:33:36 PM PST by webboy45
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; STARWISE

Good post and it belies the childhood words; “Sticks and stones may break our bones but words can never harm us”!!

Nowadays careless, mean and radical words are doing irreparable harm in every venue of our lives!


8 posted on 12/03/2007 3:35:53 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: STARWISE

We were engaged with the enemy during TET and killed piles, heaps of them. Though we suffered some deaths and many wounded, there is no doubt we held our ground and eliminated the threat in our AO by the next day. We had the ammo and wherewithall to eliminate more but did not. We didn’t run out of artillary support or Air Force/Navy dropped Napham or CBUs.
Yet, upon returning stateside months later, we heard that we had “lost” the Tet offensive. What a load of horsecrap. That is the moment that confirmed what I was starting to believe, that there was a conspiracy amongst our news media and somebody was telling a huge lie, betraying our men and women in uniform for the sake of a bunch of hippies. Cronkite confirmed it.
We quit in VietNam and General Giap confirmed what Osama Bin Laden hoped - that we were weak willed and uncommitted to preserving our freedom. If not for President Bush, we all would be shopping for sheets - to wear on our heads.


9 posted on 12/03/2007 3:42:36 PM PST by caisson71
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for posting this. I like this quote:

“It appears we have appointed our worst generals to command forces, and our most gifted and brilliant to edit newspapers.” ~Gen. Robert E. Lee

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


10 posted on 12/03/2007 3:45:53 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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“What we still don’t understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender.

It was the same at the battle of Tet. You defeated us. We knew it. We thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice that your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefield. We were ready to surrender. You had won.”

Do you know which Giap book that is pulled from? I’ve read and have People’s War, People’s Army, How we won the War, and still don’t know where those quotes come from. They are pretty much Communist puff pieces, does he have other memoirs?

11 posted on 12/03/2007 3:46:29 PM PST by BGHater (Lead. The MSG for the 21st Century.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

God bless you for your service and
the service of all our troops, past
and present.


12 posted on 12/03/2007 3:47:22 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

thanks you. It was an honor to serve.


13 posted on 12/03/2007 3:49:13 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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“But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!” ................... OK, I’m baffled. Where is this quote written? Someone tell me the book title and exact page on which this appears. I want to show it to my Liberal friends. In fact I’ll have it framed and given to them for Christmas presents.


14 posted on 12/03/2007 3:51:47 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons,. had enough yet, or do you want more of them?)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping. I also heard Rush talking about it on his program today.


15 posted on 12/03/2007 3:57:35 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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Too bad the MSM will bury this because it exposes them for the anti-American defeatists they are.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 3:59:17 PM PST by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Red Badger
“General Giap is a more honorable man than John Kerry........”

General Giap was a worthy adversary and honorable man. J F’n K was/is nothing more than a mealymouthed charlatan and traitorous SOB not worthy to lick the sweat off....... you get the picture.

17 posted on 12/03/2007 4:18:57 PM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: Doogle

I knew this in 1968 when I was doing my job listening to NVA radio ops in the aftermath of the Spring Offensive in which the NFL completely ceased to be represented by living southerners and the NVA was shredded yet again. All they wanted was out.


18 posted on 12/03/2007 4:28:14 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: STARWISE
God bless you for your service and the service of all our troops, past and present.

I take it that you are not the lady with two kids who spit on me in SFO in '72.

19 posted on 12/03/2007 4:51:41 PM PST by Wingy
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To: Red Badger
So - With this bit of information, Which candidate is calling to remain on offense -and win? Just a hint - He ain’t from Hope
20 posted on 12/03/2007 4:51:52 PM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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