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UK Indian women 'aborting girls'
BBC ^ | 03 Dec 2007 | BBC

Posted on 12/03/2007 7:15:36 AM PST by BGHater

Reconstruction: 'Meena' is an actress
Reconstruction: 'Meena' went to India to abort her fourth daughter

A study suggests Indian women in the UK are aborting unborn daughters so they can have more boys, the BBC's Asian Network has learned.

The Oxford University study suggests 1,500 girls are "missing" from the birth statistics in England and Wales from 1990 to 2005.

It shows the proportion of boys compared with girls born to Indian-born mothers has increased since the 1970s.

Dr Sylvie Dubuc said this could be due to "sex selective abortion".

Dr Dubuc, who studied birth rates of different ethnic groups in England and Wales, found that in the 1970s 103 boys were born for every 100 girls.

Between 2000 and 2005, the proportion of boys over girls had increased abnormally to 114 boys for every 100 girls, she said.

Unfortunately it was another girl - my husband and I thought the burden would probably be too much

Unnamed British woman


Figures showed 26,662 babies were born to Indian-born women in England and Wales from 1990 to 2005, excluding the first or second child.

"According to my calculation around 1,500 girls are missing... it's significant compared to the total number of births," Dr Dubuc said.

She said the most probable explanation seemed to be sex selective abortion by a minority of mothers born in India.

One British woman, who spoke to the BBC anonymously, said she had an abortion after a doctor in India found she was to have a fourth daughter.

"Unfortunately it was another girl. My husband and I thought the burden would probably be too much and the pressure when I got back home. So we decided to terminate," she said.

In Indian culture, the preference for boys over girls is well known.

Getting rid of baby girls is a practice that is so widespread in some parts of India that it has skewed dramatically the ratio of males to females.

Female foeticide, as it is known, has been illegal in India since the early 1980s.

It is also illegal to offer scans to find out the sex of a baby - but the law is regularly flouted.

Undercover filming

To see how difficult it is to find a doctor willing to carry out the service, the BBC sent a British couple to one of Delhi's top gynaecologists, Dr Mangala Telang - a doctor recommended by the British High Commission.

Dr Telang, an IVF treatment specialist, has practised in some of Delhi's top hospitals and has actually campaigned against female foeticide calling it an "evil" crime.

The BBC had heard that her clinic would offer ultrasound scans to determine the sex of a baby - even though a sign in the waiting room clearly said it was illegal.

FACTS AND FIGURES

Female infanticide occurs in 80% of Indian states

Worst-affected states include wealthiest areas

927 girls born for every 1,000 boys

Infant mortality rate: 60/1,000

Source: Unicef

Secret filming shows that within minutes Dr Telang agreed to perform the scan. She warns the couple not to tell anyone about what they were doing as it is illegal.

The couple also ask whether, if the unborn child is a girl and they decide to abort the baby, she could recommend someone to carry out a termination.

Dr Telang says: "Yes, I can recommend someone."

In the ultrasound room, another doctor tells the couple the "good" news that it is a boy. Both doctors had broken several laws.

When the BBC told the doctors about the evidence, they denied doing anything wrong.

Dr Telang said she was not in the room when the scan was carried out. But she is clearly seen in the room congratulating the couple.

Cultural pressures

An estimated seven million girls have gone missing from India's population over the last 25 years.

Some of them will have been killed after they were born, or allowed to die within their first few days. But most of them will have been aborted.

Selective abortion is happening all over India as ultrasound machines - which carry out the scan - have become cheaper, but it has always been worst in Punjab and Gujarat.

It is impossible to say how many British women are travelling to India for terminations.

But the UK has a substantial community with strong links to, and often the same pressures as, families in India.

SEX RATIO OF BIRTHS TO INDIAN-BORN WOMEN IN ENGLAND AND WALES, 1969-2005

Birth of first or second child is excluded from these figures

Years

Number of births

Sex Ratio*

1969-79

51,635

103.0

1980-89

32,338

104.0

1990-2000

19,049

112.5

2000-2005

7,613

114.4

Source: An Increase in the Sex Ratio of Births to India-born Mothers in England and Wales: Evidence for Sex-Selective Abortion by Dubuc and Coleman


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aborting; abortion; indian; uk

1 posted on 12/03/2007 7:15:37 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

besides the horrible moral implication.

If India, and Indians living overseas keep this up their sons will have no Indian woman to marry and could become sodomites.


2 posted on 12/03/2007 7:19:36 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: BGHater
The unintended consequences as “abortion is a human right” in a non-Christian society

I often wonder how feminist regard their genocide on female babies...seems rather ironic.

3 posted on 12/03/2007 7:20:37 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: BGHater
*Sex ratio shows the proportion of male to female babies.

Doesn't anyone use the word 'gender' anymore?

4 posted on 12/03/2007 7:22:44 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: 2banana

The BBC does a pretty good job of trying to make abortion not seem so prevalent. They talk in percentages, give nearly exact birth rates of female vs. male, but no reporting on how many actual abortions are taking place.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 7:29:04 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: Vaquero

“If India, and Indians living overseas keep this up their sons will have no Indian woman to marry”
Perhaps another enterprising country will encourage women to abort boys, hire Hitlery to train all the girls to be controlling b*tches, marry them off to Indian boys, and take over India!


6 posted on 12/03/2007 7:31:54 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BGHater

This from a people where in their home country they walk around ankle deep in cow plop because it’s a sin to kill them.


7 posted on 12/03/2007 7:36:45 AM PST by Dedbone
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

SUGGESTS!? The BBC is so F*&$ing dumb. This has been going on for YEARS. Same in China! In both countries there are entire towns in the countryside where men outnumber women 2:1 or more. I challenge you to find one congenitally handicapped or retarded child in all of China or India. Why are there none??? Euthenasia is “alive” and well. This is the result of left-wing love of “collectivism” and their lack of respect for life. Wait until it happens to you.


8 posted on 12/03/2007 7:39:11 AM PST by PGR88
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To: subterfuge

Don’t you know? Gender is a social construct, not a biological fact. You have no right to define someone’s gender for them.


9 posted on 12/03/2007 8:22:43 AM PST by RonF
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To: subterfuge
Doesn't anyone use the word 'gender' anymore?

"Sex" is the proper term in this case.

10 posted on 12/03/2007 8:25:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
"Sex" is the proper term in this case.

Hi r9. When is it proper to use "gender"?

11 posted on 12/03/2007 8:37:20 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: BGHater

Looks like China and India are in for some serious bloodletting in the next 20 years. My bet is that it will be over new colonial Africa (living space) or SE Asia (women).


12 posted on 12/03/2007 8:39:28 AM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: PGR88

“SUGGESTS!?”
Why are you yellin’ at me?


13 posted on 12/03/2007 8:47:52 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: subterfuge
In a formal sense, gender is a grammatical term: "a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms."

It is sometimes used as a synonym for sex: "either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures."

In this case, the word "sex" best describes the basis of the abortion selection.

I think the word "gender" has come into vogue as a substitute for "sex" because the latter is evocative of the sex act.

14 posted on 12/03/2007 8:56:07 AM PST by r9etb
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To: BGHater

Abortion: Empowering women everywhere.


15 posted on 12/03/2007 8:57:47 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: subterfuge

Yes, “gender” originally was a grammatical term only.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 8:59:28 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: BGHater

What in the world do people expect to happen when abortion is ‘on demand’? I’m sure the radical feminists don’t know which way to jump on this one.


17 posted on 12/03/2007 9:19:54 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: r9etb

Interesting. Thanks.


18 posted on 12/03/2007 9:25:13 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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