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Giuliani's 'Virtual Fence' a Virtually Useless Border Plan -James Pinkerton (Hillarious)
Cedar Rapids Gazette ^ | 12/02/2007 | James Pinkerton

Posted on 12/03/2007 5:50:33 AM PST by bigjoesaddle

A "virtual fence" to defend our border with Mexico? You know, detectors and sensors and cameras and the like, but not a physical barrier?

That's the considered policy position of Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, which he shares with such homeland security experts as Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and Michael Chertoff, secretary of Homeland Security. All of them support a virtual fence -- because any fool can see that walls don't work.

Bricks, concrete, barbed wire, all that: overrated! We don't need physical boundaries between us, only virtual boundaries. That's why we'd never put up a real fence, for instance, if we wanted to keep our children or pets from wandering away.

So why should our government do any differently? Why clutter up the border vista -- it's a great view, from Laredo to Nuevo Laredo, and vice versa -- with some big ugly wall?

Maybe you think I'm kidding. But don't take my word for it: Here's Giuliani, quoted in an Associated Press story from last week, headlined, "Giuliani promotes virtual fence." Explains the former mayor, "Frankly, the virtual fence is more valuable, because it alerts you to people approaching the border, it alerts you to people coming over the border."

That sounds like a good plan, doesn't it? After all, you use a virtual lock on your front door, right? That way, when intruders approach your house, you can spot them. And when they walk in, well, a police SWAT team is on the way. The key to this enforcement strategy, to be sure, is to respond after the crime has occurred. So it's strange, therefore, that Giuliani insists that he wants to build at least some physical wall.

Because virtuality works better, Giuliani assures us. After all, that's why we have virtual prison walls and jail cells, right? You see, when the bad guys escape, an alarm goes off, satellites up in space look down, and helicopters fly over and scoop them up. And if the inmates try it again, well, we just repeat the apprehending process till they cry uncle.

So that's the plan for fending off terrorists from around the world -- not to mention any of the 500 million South and Central Americans who might wish to come to this country illegally. We'll spot 'em and nab 'em before they get to Des Moines.

Some see weaknesses in this virtual approach. A headline in The Washington Post from Sept. 21, 2006, declared: "Plenty of Holes Seen in a 'Virtual Fence'/Border Sensors Not Enough, Experts Say." And this headline from the AP on Sept. 20 of this year: "Glitch renders 'virtual fence' unworkable." But President Giuliani can fix any technical challenge. After all, as mayor, he solved the problem of radio interoperability between the police and fire departments long before disaster struck on Sept. 11, 2001.

I like this idea of "virtuality," as opposed to "reality." So here's another modest proposal: Let's have a virtual border patrol. I mean, sending out actual law enforcers to interdict unknown persons coming across the border -- that's a formula for trouble.

But with the virtual border patrol, we won't have any repeats of the violence that occurred Feb. 17, 2005, when two all-too-real border patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, shot and wounded a suspected drug smuggler as he was fleeing from them.

Ramos and Compean were convicted of unjustly shooting Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila. So the two border patrolmen received long prison sentences, which they are now serving, while Aldrete-Davila went free.

So you see where I'm headed: If Ramos and Compean had been virtualized, then poor Osvaldo would never have been shot. Guns? We don't need no stinkin' guns -- or walls.

Instead, let's have all-virtual law enforcement, all the time. Too bad Giuliani didn't think of this idea when he was mayor. If he had, he could really have cut crime in New York City.

James Pinkerton is a columnist for Newsday. You can reach him at jim@jamesppinkerton.com.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; annie; fence; giuliani; immigrantlist; julie; lastresponder; rootie; rudy; stfuandbuildthefence; virtual
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To: bigjoesaddle

“Aren’t the funds already approved?”

According to Duncan Hunter, the approved funds are sitting there ready to go.


21 posted on 12/03/2007 6:44:37 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: gridlock

If fences don’t work, why is there one around the White House? The wall the Israelis built seems to work and went up fairly quick. America has it’s own sons and daughters on the fence between the North and South Korea, why can’t we bring them home and put them on our own fence?


22 posted on 12/03/2007 6:48:05 AM PST by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Wolverine
The Saudis get it. Why can't the democRATS get it?

Why can't the Big Business sell-outs in the GOP get it??

23 posted on 12/03/2007 6:48:30 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Perdogg
I am in the construction industry...the costs are staggering....

Yup, a physical fence would make for a lot of staggering costs in the construction industry, what with the way it would hinder illegals from being available for cheap labor and all.

24 posted on 12/03/2007 6:49:14 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: bigjoesaddle
A virtual fence will stop virtually nothing....

- John

25 posted on 12/03/2007 6:51:32 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: DTogo
The Saudis get it. Why can't the democRATS get it?

Why can't the Big Business sell-outs in the GOP get it??

Right on, DTogo. The hand of the National Chamber of Commerce is very influential, along with others I'm sure.

26 posted on 12/03/2007 6:51:49 AM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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To: Plutarch

I guess we will have to buy a lot fencing from China to meet the demand.


27 posted on 12/03/2007 6:53:04 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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To: Plains Drifter
America has it’s own sons and daughters on the fence between the North and South Korea, why can’t we bring them home and put them on our own fence?

Yeah, what's up with that? We've been deployed to the Korean front since 1950. We need to end the Korean War now! US out of Korea. We need an exit strategy.

28 posted on 12/03/2007 6:55:49 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: bigjoesaddle
not to mention any of the 500 million South and Central Americans who might wish to come to this country illegally.

I know we have South and Central Americans coming here illegally but the primary problem is with Mexico, which is in North America.

29 posted on 12/03/2007 7:16:35 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: ConservativeMind
LOL, how lone will it take rudy to put the collars on all the southern illegals that may try to cross the border. LOL
30 posted on 12/03/2007 7:33:55 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Perdogg
The cost is also staggering.

We will have a net gain based on all the unpaid doctors bills the tax payers pick up each year.

31 posted on 12/03/2007 7:35:52 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Condor51
A 2,000 mile state-of-the-art border fence has been estimated to cost between four and eight billion dollars. Costs for a wall that would run the entire length of the border might be as low as $851 million for a standard 10-foot prison chain link fence topped by razor wire. For another $362 million, the fence could be electrified. A larger 12-foot tall, two-foot-thick concrete wall painted on both sides would run about $2 billion."

We spend $100 billion a year in Iraq. Our sourthern border is just as important to national security as Iraq.

32 posted on 12/03/2007 7:40:05 AM PST by kabar
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To: bigjoesaddle

Any presidential candidate advocating for a virtual fence will get my virtual vote.


33 posted on 12/04/2007 10:25:05 AM PST by sheana
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To: DTogo

Oh, they “get it” all right...Both Dem’s and Rep’s...They just don’t “want it”...They want the “illegal” votes from illegals...They want the cheap labor to ensure their corporate graft keeps coming in..

I, for one, put a difference between American conservatives and any politician...American conservatives want what is best for America....politicians want what is best for....politicians...


34 posted on 12/06/2007 5:42:05 PM PST by Boonie
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To: Boonie

WHoever is elected for four years better not expect ANOTHER four years if the fence isn’t built!


35 posted on 12/06/2007 9:31:00 PM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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