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UN says USA must be part of climate change agreement
YAHOO ^ | 12/2/07 | Michael Casey

Posted on 12/02/2007 2:18:35 PM PST by ricks_place

BALI, Indonesia - World powers meeting at a UN climate change conference in Indonesia this week won't be able to craft a meaningful plan to address global warming without co-operation from the United States, the top emitter of greenhouse gases, the UN's climate chief said Sunday.

The United States refused to sign the last major international treaty on reducing greenhouse gases, undermining its effectiveness.

Delegates from 190 countries will gather on the resort island of Bali on Monday for one of the largest global warming conferences ever, bringing together about 10,000 people including Hollywood luminaries, former vice-president Al Gore, fishermen and drought-stricken farmers for two weeks of marathon discussions.

World leaders will attempt to launch negotiations that could lead to a replacement for the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. Among the most contentious issues will be whether emission cuts should be mandatory or voluntary and how to help the world's poorest countries adapt to a warmer climate.

Yvo de Boer, general secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, said the role of the United States "would be critical" in the discussions and that delegates must come up with a roadmap that's embraced by Washington.

"To design a long-term response to climate change that does not include the world's largest emitter and the world's largest economy just would not make any sense," he told reporters.

The United States, which along with Australia refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol, said ahead of the Bali talks that it was eager to launch negotiations, but has been among industrialized countries leading a campaign against mandatory emission cuts.

But now the United States finds itself isolated at the conference, given that Australian Prime Minister-elect Kevin Rudd, whose party swept to power in general elections just one week ago, immediately put signing the Kyoto pact at the top of his international agenda.

President Bush, trying to fend off charges that America is not doing enough, said this week that a final Energy Department report showed American emissions of carbon dioxide, a leading greenhouse gas, declined by 1.5 per cent last year while the U.S. economy grew.

"Energy security and climate change are two of the important challenges of our time. The United States takes these challenges seriously," he said.

The meeting on Bali comes after a Nobel Prize-winning UN network of scientists issued a report concluding the level of carbon and other heat-trapping "greenhouse gas" emissions must be stabilized by 2015 and decline from there to stave off the worst effects of climate change.

The solutions are within reach, they said, from investing in renewable energy to improving energy efficiency. Without action, temperatures will rise, resulting in droughts, severe weather, dying species and other consequences, they said.

"It is already affecting the livelihoods of people we work with," said Dr. Charles Ehrhart, Climate Change Co-ordinator for CARE International, citing concerns over food security and access to water. "It is contributing to tensions within and between communities."

The 1997 Kyoto pact required 36 industrial countries to reduce carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gasses but it set relatively low emissions reduction targets: about a five per cent required drop in the levels recorded in 1990 by 2012.

A new agreement must be concluded within two years to ensure a smooth, uninterrupted transition.

De Boer said countries need to act now but acknowledged that anyone who expects the Bali meeting to result in specific targets or long-term solutions "will leave disappointed."

Industrialized countries, which have pumped the lion's share of greenhouses gases into the atmosphere to date, should take the lead in reducing emissions, he said. Developing countries like China, the world's second biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, may not be required to cut their emissions immediately but should commit slowing the growth of carbon dioxide and other heat trapping gases.

At best, analysts believe, Bali could lead to an agreement in about two years time with the United States under a new administration, the Europeans and other industrial nations committing to deepening blanket emissions cuts. And they say major developing countries could agree to enshrine some national policies - China's auto emission standards, for example, or energy-efficiency targets for power plants - as international obligations.


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KEYWORDS: carboncult; charlesehrhart; climatechange; deboer; globalhoaxing; globalwarming; gorebalism; greenreligion; ipcc; kyoto; unitednations; unoutofus; uselessnations; usoutofun; yvodeboer
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for the link.

Sue Al Gore Instead
London Telegraph | 12/01/07 | ReasonMcLucus
Posted on 12/01/2007 8:26:19 PM EST by kathsua
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933418/posts


61 posted on 12/02/2007 8:02:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, November 30, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ricks_place; SunkenCiv; blam; RightWhale; backhoe

Japan, Italy and Spain face payments of as much as $33 billion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933800/posts


62 posted on 12/02/2007 8:23:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: ricks_place

OUr response: You’ve got 24 hours to vacate the forkin’ UN building in NYC. Finally toss these money grubbing socialists and monarchs and dictators out on their anti-US arses.

Second thing to do is to stop all govt handouts to all these places that continue to diplomatically rail against us. Enough of our free money for you ba$tards.


63 posted on 12/02/2007 8:30:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: spunkets

funny how the evolution worshippers cant let ole Mother Earth continue her thing...


64 posted on 12/02/2007 10:26:25 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: ricks_place
UN says USA must be part of climate change agreement

Silverback says UN can bite his hairy white buttocks.

65 posted on 12/02/2007 10:26:33 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: GloriaJane
I note the 'record' high and low temps whenever I watch the weather. Here in Cent KY, the highs are usually late 1800s-early 1900s, FOLLOWED in 10-20 years by record lows.

Evidently mother nature has a cycle that we cant modify...

66 posted on 12/02/2007 10:39:03 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Fred Nerks
...thanks for the graphic backhoe!


67 posted on 12/03/2007 2:06:21 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: Fred Nerks

Is there any valid description of the third picture? I asked because it could be a picture of a fish farm pond being harvested.


68 posted on 12/03/2007 6:15:38 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

Thursday, June 07, 2007
What does 275,000 pounds of dead fish look like ?

http://china-environmental-news.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html


69 posted on 12/03/2007 12:53:59 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: GladesGuru
http://www.fao.org/NEWS/FOTOFILE/ph9711-e.htm

AQUACULTURE. living fish are harvested. Dead fish float on the surface and STINK!

70 posted on 12/03/2007 3:36:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“A member of Green Peace activist sets up a giant thermometer”

It looks more like a painted bong ....


71 posted on 12/04/2007 2:38:57 AM PST by Disturbin (01-20-09: Another Republican's First Day)
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