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To: All; Cindy; Oorang; MamaDearest

Thugs arrested on flight

A Ryanair flight from Dublin was forced to remain at the airport after a passenger urinated inside the plane.

Two teenagers were taken off the flight and arrested before the flight could take off and fly into Brussells.

An Irish politician who was on board the flight called for the airport and airline to review safety and security measures.

Mary White, deputy leader of the Green Party, claimed the teens shouted abuse and threatened passengers with a bomb, while one urinated on board.
“Passengers were left shocked,” she said.....
http://www.utvlive.com/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=86400&pt=n

Flight delayed over urinating man

A Ryanair pilot was forced to abort a take-off at Dublin Airport after a passenger urinated at the rear of the aeroplane.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7132584.stm

A RYANAIR flight was stopped just before take-off when a passenger stood up and urinated at the back of the plane.

The teenager and his friend, who were understood to have been in a group of up to five men, were arrested after the incident on the flight to Brussels........
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article557677.ece

Men arrested on flight from Dublin

Gardaí arrested two teenage men at Dublin Airport this morning after they were thrown off a Ryanair flight for refusing to sit down before take off, threatening they had a bomb and one of them urinating at the back of the plane as it taxied down the runway.

A spokesman for Ryanair said the two men were on a flight to Charleroi, Brussels, due to depart at 8.30am but as the aircraft was taxiing down the runway the men stood up and refused to sit down. The spokesman said one of the men then urinated at the back of the plane.

The flight crew informed the pilot who turned the aircraft back to the terminal.

Green Party Deputy Leader Mary White who was on the flight said passengers felt vulnerable and shocked by the incident.

“The passengers had been involved in shouting abuse, threatening passengers with a bomb, while another urinated on board”.......
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1207/breaking28.html?via=mr


352 posted on 12/07/2007 8:36:29 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: All

M. Zuhdi Jasser, a former U.S. Navy lieutenant commander, is chairman of the board of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (www.aifdemocracy.org).

Exposing the “Flying Imams”
by M. Zuhdi Jasser
Middle East Quarterly
Winter 2008

[snip...but you’ll want to read it all...]

My Experience with the Phoenix Imams

I have known three of the plaintiffs in the U.S. Airways suit for almost a decade. Soon after settling in Arizona in 1999, I became involved in the local Muslim community. Before moving to Scottsdale, I usually attended Friday congregational prayer services at the Islamic Community Center of Tempe, Arizona. Often, Ahmed Shqeirat, now the primary plaintiff, delivered sermons at the mosque where he has long been imam. I was struck by the political nature of his sermons. He repeatedly criticized both U.S. domestic and foreign policy and often exaggerated Muslim victimization. He advocated political unification of Muslims internationally and blamed the United States, Israel, and the West for perceived slights. He called for the political empowerment of Muslims in American society.

After hearing several sermons, I spoke and wrote to him to express my dismay at his emphasis of political over spiritual topics. He responded that “secularism is Godlessness” and asserted a right to “speak about political injustice.” The concept of purely spiritual Islam and creation of an intellectual environment welcoming to all Muslims regardless of political persuasion was anathema to him.

To give one example of his abuse of pulpit, during a Friday sermon in April 2004, he displayed an image, which CAIR had distributed, of an American soldier in Iraq with two young Iraqi boys. In the photo, the soldier held a sign saying, “Lcpl Boudreaux killed my dad, then he knocked up my sister.”[15] Shqeirat neither made any attempt to verify the image’s authenticity nor to determine, if real, whether it was representative. Nor, when he was asked, could he explain how such a display related to Islamic theology or spirituality. The goal of using faith identity to divide society highlights the incompatibility of Islamism with traditions of American culture and society.

I had similar concerns regarding the sermons of Marwan Saadeddin, another plaintiff, whose sermons I heard in the Phoenix Valley. Following the U.S. Air 300 incident, Saadeddin spun the incident to the media[16] and transformed it into a parable of victimization during a Friday sermon at a Phoenix Valley mosque. During the sermon, I heard him say, “I’d rather be dead than removed from an airplane in handcuffs.” Such is the political and fanatical ranting of one of Arizona’s leading imams. As is common among Islamist preachers, he substituted politics for theology and spirituality.

I also know Omar Shahin, another imam plaintiff. He resides in the Phoenix area and has been the head of the Valley Imam Council of Phoenix, the former imam of the Islamic Center of Tucson, a teacher with the Arizona Cultural Academy, and the imam of the Islamic Center of the East Valley. His hyperbole is typical of the Phoenix-area Islamists. He called the day of his eviction from the U.S. Air flight “the worst day of [his] life,”[17] a statement far more forceful than any he issued after the 9-11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, the March 11, 2004 train bombings in Madrid, the July 7, 2005 London bus and Underground bombings, or in response to any Al-Qaeda video seeking to justify the murder of Americans and noncombatants in the name of religion. Indeed, he blamed the 9-11 attacks not on Muslim terrorists but on the CIA and FBI.[18]

There should also be concern regarding the involvement of some of the imams with Islamic charities shuttered because of their terror financing. Shahin was the Arizona representative of Kindhearts and the Holy Land Foundation, both of which the U.S. Treasury Department shut down because of their involvement with Hamas.[19] Saadeddin dismissed Hamas connections as any reason for concern, recently stating that, “Hamas has nothing to do with [the] United States. Talk about Al-Qaeda only, because this is where they hit America ... [If] America consider[s] it—the foreign policy of America consider[s] Hamas—as a terrorist. That’s their business.”[20]

[snip]
http://www.meforum.org/article/1809


353 posted on 12/07/2007 8:54:38 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: Velveeta

Aging “youths”, now “thugs” on a plane.

Thank you Velveeta.

And the names of the “thugs” are ____?


355 posted on 12/07/2007 9:17:51 PM PST by Cindy
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