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The United States in decline. "Nation confronted by issues that may lead to its downfall"
saukvalley ^ | November 30, 2007 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 12/01/2007 2:59:34 AM PST by VU4G10

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To: Darkwolf377

Yep, there came a time at least five years ago, when I totally turned Pat off. Didn’t read articles anymore, changed the channel if on TV. He earned his way off the minds of many who would once would at listen.


21 posted on 12/01/2007 4:54:49 AM PST by DmBarch
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To: Shady

“...the seeds of this collapse were sewn years ago when the nation went from a survivalist mentality to an entitlement mentality.”

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! That, my friend, is the truth in a nutshell.


22 posted on 12/01/2007 4:54:56 AM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: DmBarch

Pat is a boor, droning on and on like some lunatic preacher. A nightmare TV event for me would be him being interviewed by Chris Matthews, both of them so sure they know what’s REALLY true and right and good, talking over each other.


23 posted on 12/01/2007 4:56:31 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (...sigh...)
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To: Darkwolf377

Pats also getting some big bucks for peddling this crap


24 posted on 12/01/2007 5:22:09 AM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Ferd didn't vote to impeach Clinton - the second time around. It was the vote that Trent Lott twisted arms to keep the senate from 'getting extreme' and actually removing Clinton from office. Lott didn't want to 'hurt the country' and he found many senators ready and willing to play along with his good ol boys game.....

Fred showed his true colors then and hasn't changed since. Fred may have some nice and shiny ideas but he's too easily subverted by fellow masons....

25 posted on 12/01/2007 5:36:00 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: VU4G10
Who needs gold to back the dollar when you have the US military ?

The PetroDollar - its friends and enemies

26 posted on 12/01/2007 5:39:55 AM PST by Vet_6780
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To: Darkwolf377
Pat is just defining problems. He is wrong about three things. This overall war must be fought because we have no choice. Iraq wants to be a friend; they want us to stay. There will be a Treaty and Status of Forces Agreement next year some time. Country to country. And there are over 35 million illegal aliens here, not "12 to 20".

And Condi Rice needs to pull on the boots and kick some ass at the State Dept. There are 2 million people waiting to become naturalized US citizens. I would fire just 10% of those lazy asses.

27 posted on 12/01/2007 5:52:20 AM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: Darkwolf377

“Cal and Pat are the latest example of how certain “conservatives” are just as bad as liberals when it comes to claiming the country is collapsing just because their ideas of the moment aren’t being embraced. “

So you don’t think 30 million iliterate invaders will cause any permanent changes to our country? Come visit here in Texas where anglos are fast becoming a minority. I have been cursed by mexicans on two different occasions because of a bumper sticker that says “close our borders”. I have no idea who you are or where you live, but quality of life has definately changed for the worse here. Maybe you should get out more and see what’s happening. By the way, Texas has been one of the most reliable conservative States, but if amnesty happens we will instantly become a blue State.


28 posted on 12/01/2007 6:18:47 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: VU4G10

Start with Annapolis and work your way down.


29 posted on 12/01/2007 6:26:08 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Heb 9:27, Rev 22:17,John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: nyyankeefan
could not read the article...it needed to be in the original german... not pat...I need to get off FR and goose-step over to the breakfast table!!!!

If you were smart, you'd read the article and learn something. And, you'd stop believing that every conservative is a Nazi.

30 posted on 12/01/2007 6:41:03 AM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: Scarchin; Prophet in the wilderness

HUNTER STATEMENT ON HIS VOTE TO
IMPEACH PRESIDENT CLINTON
http://www.house.gov/hunter/news_prior_2006/impeach2.htm


31 posted on 12/01/2007 6:45:21 AM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: nyyankeefan

Nice liberal attack on your part. Don’t address the subject at hand, just thrown in some lame ass remark that adds nothing to the discussion but attacks the person.


32 posted on 12/01/2007 7:00:39 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Vet_6780
We have an increasing dependence on the military to maintain the reserve status of the petrodollar, under attack again for the second time in 30 years.

Under attack by whom?

33 posted on 12/01/2007 7:03:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Under attack by whom?

Gathering Enemies

34 posted on 12/01/2007 7:13:01 AM PST by Vet_6780
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To: donna

If you were smart, you’d read the article and learn something. And, you’d stop believing that every conservative is a Nazi.

read the article....read your hero pat’s treatises on Israel and Jews...he is the most anti-semitic writer and does not speak for conservatives!!!!


35 posted on 12/01/2007 7:59:50 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: BobS
Not sure if I agree there Bob
Iraq wants to be a friend
Didn't we drop steel bombs on them from 1991 to 2007?
Condi Rice needs to pull on the boots and kick some ass
I'm pretty sure she's a "yes" man. Powell wasn't. That's why she's in there and he isn't despite being the weaker candidate. Kick'n ass isn't what she does. Saying "yes" to dubya is.

When it comes to illegal immigration I really feel bad for the people who waited in line and did it right. Stupid them. It amazes me even on the fR people are still sensitivity programmed and can't say "Mexicans walking across the border" but use the cover all nondiscriminatory Ill Immig. I guess what I wonder, how much does there presence help our economy? Some of them come here for work which keeps costs in agriculture and home construction down. I guess it's a question of your tolerance levels of Mexican culture vs high prices on lettuce and houses.

36 posted on 12/01/2007 8:10:40 AM PST by samp in mo
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To: Darkwolf377

Pat’s been right about everything. He’s just too far ahead of the sheeple’s cognitive abilities.


37 posted on 12/01/2007 8:26:42 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: samp in mo

All it will take is one bomb to blow off here. Just once. The AC-130s will be flying. Absolutely nothing will be alive on the border. And they have WP 20mm for those big water cooled machine guns.


38 posted on 12/01/2007 8:56:51 AM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: VU4G10

bump


39 posted on 12/01/2007 8:58:01 AM PST by VOA
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To: Darkwolf377
"Cal and Pat are the latest example of how certain 'conservatives' are just as bad as liberals when it comes to claiming the country is collapsing just because their ideas of the moment aren't being embraced."

Problem with your statement is "their ideas of the moment" are based on the Founders' ideas that are the basis for the Republic. They are not "of the moment" and they are not the "conservatives" pushing like the left to do away with our Constitution and develop a new "conservatism." There is a very good reason these two are called "paleo-conservatives." They mostly adhere to what was originally considered conservative and are not interested in re-defining conservatism to suit the leftward move of the country.

40 posted on 12/01/2007 9:07:50 AM PST by penowa
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