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Media barely even trying to hide its bias
ModernConservative.com ^ | Christopher Cook

Posted on 11/30/2007 5:07:09 AM PST by connell

In 2004, Newsweek's Evan Thomas described media bias as being worth 15 points to the Democrats. I do not believe that is any exaggeration, and I believe it applies to almost every race.

Consider the following:

The MSM is trying to use permatantrum™ and fibrication™ techniques to talk us into a recession, or worse. Meanwhile, most sectors of he economy are screaming along at a pace that is the envy of the developed world...

Horrid Economy Stalls to Only 4.9% GDP Growth
About That Economy....


Next, the Washington Times and Michelle Malkin have updates on even more plants at the CNN debate than were at first realized. CNN cannot be this incompetent; it's just hard to imagine this not being intentional, even if it occurred at a level below Anderson Cooper's perceptual threshold. (Powerline indicates that Bill Otis suspects that someone was getting worked here; this was no coincidence or mistake.) Also, according to Malkin, CNN is removing some of the planted questioners' clips from their rebroadcast: Rewriting the historical record: an act worthy of Josef Stalin.


Then, there's fact that an NBC host called George W. Bush a "monkey," and then only moments later...

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To: Steely Tom
“The funny thing is, the media’s bias is really not helping the Democrats any more.”

Tom, get off the meds. Media propaganda (how can you call it merely a “bias” when they eat, breath and live it everyday?) is a corrosive, pervasive betrayal of journalistic principles working at the conscious and sub conscious level. It permeates everything they do and is the number one enemy of conservative ideals.

41 posted on 11/30/2007 10:00:55 AM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at its root)
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To: Bob J
Tom, get off the meds. Media propaganda (how can you call it merely a “bias” when they eat, breath and live it everyday?) is a corrosive, pervasive betrayal of journalistic principles working at the conscious and sub conscious level. It permeates everything they do and is the number one enemy of conservative ideals.

Well, perhaps I didn't phrase my point correctly. What I mean is, media bias has maxxed out; they're not convincing anyone who is not already convinced. They've saturated the market. In fact, they have to keep upping the ante in order to stand still; that's why they are no longer able to hide their bias.

As far as the "corrosive, pervasive betrayal of journalistic principles," well, you can believe in those if you like, and you can also believe in Santa Claus. The media's adherence to "journalistic principles" has always been a figment of their own imaginations, a phrase that they trot out when they give each other awards and when they write obits for each other. The media has always been made up mostly of wannabe hacks, poseurs, and blowhards, and it always will be. I'm talking back to the time of Mark Twain, and probably back to the time of Gutenberg and the printing press. They are a joke; all the more so because they are so unaware of it.

As to their being the "number one enemy of conservative ideals," well, my all my enemies be as moronic and inept.

42 posted on 11/30/2007 10:09:59 AM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: Steely Tom

“What I mean is, media bias has maxxed out; they’re not convincing anyone who is not already convinced.”

Each and every year they are convincing millions of young kids who become voters for the first time...and which takes 10-15 years to beat out of them.


43 posted on 11/30/2007 10:18:57 AM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at its root)
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To: Bob J
Each and every year they are convincing millions of young kids who become voters for the first time...and which takes 10-15 years to beat out of them.

I hate to break it to you, but young kids tend to be liberal by nature. This is because they are ignorant, and ignorant people are attracted to the vapid platitudes of liberalism. This is because they don't have the knowledge to distinguish between what sounds good and what actually is good.

Young kids also don't vote in any great numbers. The attempts that are laid on by the Democrats and the media every four years to turn out the youth vote never amount to anything (Rush Limbaugh has spoken of this many times). That doesn't stop them from trying, every four years, but human nature is human nature, and the 18-25 set has better things to do than go down and register to vote wherever they are living this year (don't forget, they move around a lot), find out where their polling place is, and go down there to vote for someone they're pretty cynical about anyway, even if that someone is a Democrat.

44 posted on 11/30/2007 10:27:05 AM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: FishTale
Just out of curiosity. The "mom" asking the question regarding the lead paint... Is she really a "mom". Are those her kids in the video as we would initially be led to believe? Adopted? Are they kids from a local nursery school? What, if anything regarding her background, was said to set the stage for her question?

She's heavily involved in a union that's backing Edwards. I've seen it reported that the video of her debate question was posted on their web site. Of course, nothing was said about that. She's just an "ordinary concerned mom" as far as we're supposed to know.

45 posted on 11/30/2007 10:37:17 AM PST by Bob
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To: connell

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


46 posted on 11/30/2007 12:37:02 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

Vote for JACKIE.

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47 posted on 11/30/2007 1:30:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Steely Tom
Well, I disagree with much of what you say. I think kids are conservative by nature and 12 years in our public schools system brainwash them, not to mention the full court press they receive if they attend college nor the media propaganda. Yes, young adults may be a little ignorant but they are also pretty smart.

Young adults don’t vote in the numbers/% of say retirees, but that changes as soon as they get a job, get married and have kids. Unfortunately, the propaganda job done on them for 20 years stays with them until they start becoming the victims of democrat “compassion” and that might not happen until they are 30-35.

Unfortunately, the damage is done by that point. Your contention that liberal/media propaganda does little harm is quite simply, ridiculous, and for us to ignore it is quite simply, dangerous.

Anyway, no sense us fighting to much over it, let’s agree to disagree and move on.

48 posted on 11/30/2007 1:30:06 PM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at its root)
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To: Lou L

I’ve got a bunch like that on my side and on my wife’s side. Especially on her side, two brothers and spouses who should be GOPers by virtue of their accomplishments and station in life instead spout the same tired “Bush lied” and other such garbage. One cannot reason with them, they do it as it’s inbred. Also, they are ignorant of reality as their news comes from the MSM. I pity the fools,actually. My sister is a raging democrat who married a guy who vowed his fealty to Hillary/ Unbelievable.


49 posted on 11/30/2007 1:34:15 PM PST by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: roses of sharon
The MSM are not biased, they are liberal political organizations, running 24/7/365 political campaigns, and lying about it.

The Democrat Party is merely the political wing of the Liberal Media Industry.

There's no longer a question about who's working for who.

50 posted on 11/30/2007 1:45:17 PM PST by okie01
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To: connell

bttt


51 posted on 11/30/2007 1:50:04 PM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: Bob J

Journalism never has been more than advertising mixed with opinion mongering. Television journalism, like print journalism, is more interesting in entertaining than informing, but above all, it aims to manipulate.


52 posted on 11/30/2007 2:03:06 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Agreed. But a media system that is so overly imbalanced does a disservice to the nation...voters don’t get the information they need to make an informed choice.

In other words, let the opinion mongering continue, but it should be balanced so the electorate gets full value from the media and has the ability to make effective decisions by seeing both sides to an argument instead of one.


53 posted on 11/30/2007 2:45:32 PM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at its root)
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To: Bob J

The inbalance comes where 80% of the journalists subscribed to one set of opinions. This, because journalism schools are equally inbalanced. Liberals are drawn to education in a way that conservatives are not, in part because they hold to the dogma of the perfectibility of man thru education.


54 posted on 11/30/2007 3:49:50 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: connell

At least they’re not calling him *.


55 posted on 11/30/2007 3:53:22 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Steely Tom

“By insulating them from tough questions while giving Republicans an anal exam, the MSM ensures that the Democrats will continue to drift toward the fringe, with comical leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. It also forces the GOP to hone it’s message, and forces it’s candidates to be truthful and able to handle difficult, hostile questions under pressure.”

I agree completely with this and have thought so for many years. It helps Republicans to make sense. It helps Democrats to become raving loons. Lately I have had fun “proving” to my liberal encounters that Republicans tell the truth.

That the Republican message is honest and true can be proved by the fact that still nearly 50% of the nation votes for them. The Democrat message is propped up by the relentless drumbeat of propaganda that seeps into print, cable news, network news, Hollywood movies, TV sitcoms, children’s cartoons, public school classrooms, etc etc etc. The sheer repetition keeps their idiodic notions on life support.

Republicans on the other hand have only the merits of their arguments to sustain them. If the ideas are bad, they go away. If they are true and good, they survive.

So, thank you liberal media!!


56 posted on 11/30/2007 3:59:26 PM PST by getitright (Twenty is plenty. No more Clinton/Bush.)
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To: connell
millions of Americans who don’t know, and are only starting to become aware because new media keeps hammering.

Also because the left always overreaches, as evil always does. People have perfectly good BS detectors. The problem is they see ALL politicians as corrupt hacks and apply a certain moral equivalency. The logical fallacy of the truth falling somewhere in the middle.

Trouble is I'm not sure they're wrong about the repubicans.

57 posted on 11/30/2007 4:01:59 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bob J

The trouble is, liberals in the news game and in academia will likely always be the majority. Why?

Liberals enter journalism to “make a difference.” Of course the idiots are too thick to understand that the media should not make a difference but rather arm the public with as much truth as possible. Of course truth is anethema to the particular “difference” they desire.

Also, the ivory towers are much more appealing to liberal idealist dipsticks whose ideals would get a snappy slap in the face the moment they encounter reality. And so in the ivory towers they hide.

Sure it is agravating. I still don’t know why folks with big bucks can’t just by up the news outlets and influence the universities to exterminate the lying vermin.


58 posted on 11/30/2007 4:06:04 PM PST by getitright (Twenty is plenty. No more Clinton/Bush.)
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To: Slapshot68

It’s not anything new by any means. My dad is 80, and we talked about this, and he said it was just as bad in the 60s. Maybe more infuriating since there were really only 3 channels available. In those days conservatives could read the Wall Street Journal, National Review, and that was about it. I’m really glad Al Gore invented the internet though.


59 posted on 11/30/2007 4:31:30 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Steely Tom
The real toxic effect of the leftwing media is their ability to set the premises of the public debate. They can present a set of facts selected on the basis of implicit assumptions. The viewer casually accepts the facts, or may even respond skeptically --but the undelying premises go unchallenged and are absorbed uncritically.

A simple example you can see every day: "The troubled and weakening economy presents more problems for the embattled Bush administration tonight...." A few random figures are presented, with a couple of carefully picked sound bites. Then the story moves on to Iraq.

The idea that the economy is "troubled and weakening" is simply taken for granted, neither supported nor questioned, but simply offered as a fact. That the Bush administration may in fact not be "embattled" at all is not a thought that anyone will glean from this story. But next day, when Obama or Clinton yammers about the "terrible economy" the viewer recalls the story from the night before, and listens...

60 posted on 11/30/2007 4:47:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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