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FRED GETS IT 'RIGHT' FOR ONCE
The New York Post ^ | November 29, 2007 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:29:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Like a fickle Hollywood actor who maddeningly keeps his own schedule, Fred Thompson finally walked on the set here last night and turned in the performance his long-suffering supporters have yearned for all these months.

The "Law and Order" star's positions were more polished than ever. He attacked Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney sharply and effectively.

And he stayed above the fray when the fights around him got downright nasty.

Giuliani, meanwhile, gave the performance his supporters have always feared, showing his most liberal feathers to date.

He had to defend his past coddling statements about illegal immigration, said constitutional gun rights are open to modification, and faced a question about using New York cops to protect him while snuggling in the Hamptons with a woman not then his wife.

The former mayor's position drew boos from the conservative audience on more than one occasion. Where Giuliani stumbled, Thompson soared.

"Cut taxes for eight years when I was in the United States Senate. Never met a tax I liked," he said simply when asked if he would ever sign a bill to raise taxes.

After Giuliani attacked Romney for having illegal aliens do his yard work, Thompson said he was surprised to hear the mayor scolding anyone about bad hires.

It was a clear and devastating reference to Giuliani's former police commissioner, Bernard Kerik, who now faces federal corruption charges.

And he took a stick to former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who is now surging in polls.

A video clip produced by the Thompson campaign showed a corpulent Huckabee begging his legislature for a tax hike - any tax hike - so he could sign it.

It was a sight so ugly only someone in the movie business could have come up with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred needs to run as Romney’s VP. It’s the only sensible pairing that can snuff out Huckabee’s incipient surge and cripple Giuliani.


21 posted on 11/29/2007 8:53:15 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego

Tell it to one of your Ron Paul meet-up organizers, like the Insane, Psychotic, Delusional Taskmistress Liz Michael.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9007/bio.htm

That’s who you have on your side.


22 posted on 11/29/2007 8:53:35 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No wonder a Ken doll, a metrosexual, a Denzell Washington look-alike, and Gomer Pyle are most of the frontrunners!

thanks for the wonderful analogy. lol quite on the money. It does get disheartening at times. Our Republic is in danger of being destroyed by nanny state Socialists. We have to wait out the RINOs and their false supporters in the MSM.

23 posted on 11/29/2007 8:53:42 PM PST by sand88
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Someone should tell him that too much makeup makes a girl look cheap....and he has something on his teeth.


24 posted on 11/29/2007 8:54:21 PM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee is the GOP's Jimmy Carter. Are you ready for the plundering of your pocketbook?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought Fred was on his game last night. Dick Morris on Bill O’Reilly’s “Factor” tonight excoriated Fred saying he looked old, tired, did not know what to do not being scripted, etc.

But, who listens to anything the toe-sucker says?


25 posted on 11/29/2007 8:56:29 PM PST by no dems (Don't hate me and call me names because you can't reply to my posts intelligently.)
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To: Blue Highway
The issue is that many are attracted more to bright shiny objects. They don’t know what Conservatism is, just the Republicans are supposed to be conservatives. It’s just a word to them.
26 posted on 11/29/2007 8:57:06 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego

McCain did a real hard smackdown of Ron Paul last night. And it should be repeated until he does the 3rd ex-wife screech of Mrs. Clinton.


27 posted on 11/29/2007 8:57:47 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: sand88
It is simpler than that. Fred actually IS a conservative, so it is natural. The others put it on like a costume for a play.
28 posted on 11/29/2007 8:58:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ejonesie22

Ping


29 posted on 11/29/2007 9:00:35 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: Cicero

“Wow. Especially surprising to read this coming from the NY Post, which has been divided between supporting Hillary and Rudy, and has given nothing but the back of their hand to Fred.”

Interesting. Everytime a part of the MSM has said something good about someone like Huckabee, it has been repeatedly said by FR Thompson devotees that it is a conspiracy by the MSM to promote a GOP contender that will lose to Clinton. Is Senator Thompson the MSM’s new nominee as the GOP “loser” to face Clinton? Is the MSM still conspiring? Or do they only tell the truth when they support someone you support?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I don’t want to denigrate Thompson as I would be happy to have him as the GOP nominee, although I have finally decided to support Huckabee until, if or when he pulls out (as it stands today, he will take Iowa which may or may not lead to more wins). I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to needle some folks I think have been rabid zelots in their promotion of Thompson. I don’t hold Senator Thompson responsible for the antics of his supporters on FR. If Huckabee drops out later, and if Thompson is still running, he will then be my fallback position (not because of, but in spite of what his “supporters” here on FR have done and said).


30 posted on 11/29/2007 9:02:08 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: JCEccles
Fred would not give Mitt the time of day, nor should he. Fred is a conservative, it’s not something he pulls out as a matter of convenience, he holds it all the time.

If Mitt was smart and really wanted to make a play as a Conservative one day, he'd be taking notes from Fred.

31 posted on 11/29/2007 9:02:32 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego

Hey, I can ask you!

How about that bit where Ron Paul was asked about Dennis Kucinich as a possible running mate. Heard he thought it was too soon, but in 3-4 months maybe.

Great Republican your guy (and yes I will use an /S tag.)


32 posted on 11/29/2007 9:05:53 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego

Come on,we are trying to be serious and you cutting jokes is getting in the way.


33 posted on 11/29/2007 9:06:03 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: JCEccles

All pigs fed and ready to fly.


34 posted on 11/29/2007 9:07:30 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred is a big man and a big person, and women like men who are big. Reagan was big.

I believe it’s going to be Fred. If it’s Fred against Hillary, it’s a joke. If it’s Fred against Obama, it’s a fight that turns into a joke. If it’s Fred against Edwards, it’s a trial, where the defense is Edwards and the prosecutor and the judge are the same person, and that’s Fred.


35 posted on 11/29/2007 9:09:00 PM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: Williams
Even though Frank Luntz said Fred (or Romney) won the debate, I have doubts that Fred is about to soar. I think he’s great and would be a fine president, but I’m afraid in this image conscious age he comes across as too old. I hope I’m wrong.

I could not disagree with you more. Fred comes across as the Man with the answers, the calm, cool, collected and confident leader that he is.

Mitt, Rudy, and the Huckster come across as too slick by half, insincere, and unable to pull off the conservative label.
36 posted on 11/29/2007 9:09:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: JCEccles

“Fred needs to run as Romney’s VP. “

Romney is a political dead man walking. The flip flops and weakness are starting to be impossible to ignore (calling a lawyer before going to war, supporting gays in the military, the coming collapse of Romneycare, etc.). I am more worried about Huckleberry.


37 posted on 11/29/2007 9:10:47 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s my two cents.

I’m sick and tired of the liberal and “moderate” media (including beltway Republicans and faux conservatives like Fred Barnes et al) whining about Fred not doing what they think he should. Have they ever ran a campaign? No. I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought Reagan was going to lose in 1980.

I’m also getting tired of hearing people say they are tired of TV personalities and candidates that care more about what they look like on camera and want some substance. And then Fred puts out policy statements and no one cares. All of a sudden it’s “well, he’s not looking good on TV...he’s old, he look tired, where’s the fire in the belly?” etc. Make up your minds. Do you want a real candidate or a media candidate, like Huckabee, that only surges because people, in stupid and meaningless polls, like his one liners.

I don’t get it. The same people that want a real person that doesn’t cater to the conventional wisdom on how CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. want you to run your campaign comes along and they whine about him not catering to them?

And, as usual, all this is moot since not ONE VOTE has been cast. In 1984 it was Gary Hart that was the media darling. In 1988 it was probably some kook. In 1992 Paul Tsongas led the polls while Jerry Moonbat Brown attacked Clinton. Then Ross Perot got favorable treatment simply because he had charts and graphs. I kid you not, I knew people the liked Perot for his “message” while those same people ignored Reagan who had the same message.

Individuals are smart, people are idiots as we know from K in “Men in Black”.

In 2004 we got Howard Dean. He was, according to the conventional wisdom again, the front runner and the favorite until people actually VOTED! He then went “poof”.

Now these same pundits, who get paid for punditry so they have to provide their worthless opinions to make a living, say Fred is dead. Funny, no one has voted yet. They say he’s not doing well in Iowa or New Hampshire. DUH! He’s NOT TRYING TO. Who cares? Why are IA and NH still considered important? Iowa is full of fat cat farmers living on subsidies for worthless ethanol and NH has been diluted by Mass refugees and Vermont lesbians moving over to avoid the high taxes they love.

Fred Thompson doesn’t give a crap about Iowa or NH and he shouldn’t spend a dime in either state. When the feces hits the oscillating blade he’ll move with real voters when we get to SC, Florida and then on Feb 5.

He’s the most conservative running that isn’t a kook like Ron Paul and Huckleberry Hound. Paul is and ostrich and Huckabee is a “born again” like Bush and they are worse than true believers because, like ex-smokers, they all of a sudden believe they can FORCE others to their cause. I’m happy Mikey lost 100 pounds and feels better. Force me to do the same and I’ll shoot him. I like my butter, salt, beer, steak, fat, etc. Hell, I’m going to take up smoking at 48 (I hated it when I tried it at 16) just because the Repulicrats and Demicans want to tax it “for the children.”

Oh, I forgot. I don’t give a crap about the children. I don’t have any. Those that do should raise them themselves and quit asking me to help. I personally don’t care about their well being.


38 posted on 11/29/2007 9:12:48 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Dark Knight is coming !)
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego
Oh yeah, I forgot. How about Bin Laden giving up in Iraq.

It must suck to be you guys right now...

39 posted on 11/29/2007 9:13:07 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ansel12

Luntz said fred AND mitt won. He said fred and mitt both left with more supporters than they arrived with. McCain went in with 7 and lost them all. guliani lost supporters.
He also said illegal immigration is THE red hot issue.
One guy putting down mccain said “I have no problem with pouring water on the face of someone who killed 3000 Americans”. Another said McCain was acting sanctimonious,looking down at candidates who disagreed with him. A lady said Mitt impressed her with the waterboarding and something else, he looked presidential and she had changed her mind to go with him.
it was romney and thompson up, guliani and mccain down and out.


40 posted on 11/29/2007 9:14:01 PM PST by libbylu
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