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‘We Are At War With All Islam’ [An interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali]
Spectator (UK) ^ | November 28, 2007 | Mary Wakefield

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:10:56 AM PST by ventanax5

‘We are not at war with “terror”, that would make no sense.’

‘Hear, hear,’ said a voice at the back. ‘Terror is just a tactic used by Islam,’ she continued. ‘We are actually at war, not just with Islamism, but with Islam itself.’

But there is such a thing as moderate Islam, I say. Muslims aren’t all terrorists. There are some like Ed Husain (author of The Islamist) who argue that there are many peaceful traditions of Koranic scholarship to choose from. Isn’t it a mistake to dismiss this gentler, acceptable branch of Islam?

‘I find the word “moderate” very misleading.’ There’s a touch of steel in Hirsi Ali’s voice. ‘I don’t believe there is such a thing as “moderate Islam”. I think it’s better to talk about degrees of belief and degrees of practice. The Koran is quite clear that it should control every area of life. If a Muslim chooses to obey only some of the Prophet’s commandments, he is only a partial Muslim. If he is a good Muslim, he will wish to establish Sharia law.’

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ayaanhirsiali; crushislam; islam; islamoimperialism; jihad; mohammedanism; muslims; politicalideology; waronislam
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1 posted on 11/29/2007 11:10:57 AM PST by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Somebody gets it...


2 posted on 11/29/2007 11:12:07 AM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: ventanax5
Lies are always at war with the truth and the truth always has to stand against them.
3 posted on 11/29/2007 11:12:41 AM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: babygene

She sure does..


4 posted on 11/29/2007 11:13:24 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ventanax5

I love this gal.


5 posted on 11/29/2007 11:14:01 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: ventanax5
"There may be moderate muslims, but there is no moderate islam." Ibn Waqqid.

L

6 posted on 11/29/2007 11:14:39 AM PST by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: ventanax5
I think it’s better to talk about degrees of belief and degrees of practice. The Koran is quite clear that it should control every area of life. If a Muslim chooses to obey only some of the Prophet’s commandments, he is only a partial Muslim. If he is a good Muslim, he will wish to establish Sharia law.’

I think this is right.

7 posted on 11/29/2007 11:14:52 AM PST by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: babygene

I read their book with an open mind.
I was able to find all those quotes about hating Jews and Christians, killing infidels ect.
Their book is simply the Bible, stripped, massacred and hijacked into a hate book.
That stuff they spew is in the book. So they are not making it up.
They are simply following their field manual written by mohammed.


8 posted on 11/29/2007 11:15:32 AM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: babygene

Yup, somebody gets it. But, we need a lot more people to “get it”. Islam is nothing more than a cancer on the body of civilization. Last I knew, you remove cancer as quick as possible.


9 posted on 11/29/2007 11:16:37 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: ventanax5
First off it is not islam or islamism it should always be referred to what it is ... mohammedanism.
10 posted on 11/29/2007 11:17:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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ping


11 posted on 11/29/2007 11:20:40 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: ventanax5

I believe that all moderate islamic practices are mere window dressing for their real motives. Maybe everyone isn’t at war with islam, but I am.


12 posted on 11/29/2007 11:24:06 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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‘I don’t believe there is such a thing as “moderate Islam”.

I agree 100%. If there were, I would think we would have heard them express outrage and condemnation when they started lopping off the heads of missionaries and other innocent people. If you need to bake a family's son and serve the body to that family in order to make that family embrace your position, you have a problem with your position.

13 posted on 11/29/2007 11:24:08 AM PST by econjack (If your only tool is a hammer, don't be surprised if all you problems look like a nail.)
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To: ventanax5

We are working, fighting, and dying alongside many muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, so I’m not ready to buy into this. At least not yet.


14 posted on 11/29/2007 11:24:38 AM PST by IonInsights (T)
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We are working, fighting, and dying alongside many muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, so I’m not ready to buy into this. At least not yet.

They are working to reestablish islumist control over their countries, probably to include the reestablishment of sharia law once American forces are out of the picture.

Nevertheless, our most immediate enemy is not "Islamofascism," nor the those who follow the religion of islam or the precipts of that religion. It is the Islamic Imperialism- Sharia, to them- that they espose as a political program.

15 posted on 11/29/2007 11:31:48 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: ventanax5

Please fill-in all the fields when posting an article.


16 posted on 11/29/2007 11:38:40 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ventanax5
Islam, at it's worst, is a war driven death cult.
17 posted on 11/29/2007 11:39:18 AM PST by GOPJ ("Imagine the Outrage if FOX had Fixed a “debate” like this??" Freeper bray -- "CNN Sucks" - GOPJ)
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‘We are actually at war, not just with Islamism, but with Islam itself.’

Agreed. So when the heck are we restarting the Crusades? It is time.


18 posted on 11/29/2007 11:43:50 AM PST by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: ventanax5

I think that any Muslim no matter how moderate or ingrained with decency will eventually respond in an Islamic matter if there was an open global war against Islam. They are just sleeper agents, its the absolute teachings of their cult religion that demands they destroy any nonbeliever, even household pet rats when scared and threatened will attack and thats just what every single Muslim is.
Its the religion that must be destroyed, people can change beliefs.

When I think of an Islamic war I think not of killing Muslims, I think of ways to eliminate Islamic teachings, discredit it, advertise its fallacy, make people understand that its a suicide cult and has no future place on earth.


19 posted on 11/29/2007 11:48:33 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: ventanax5

“‘We are actually at war, not just with Islamism, but with Islam itself.’”

Our politicians should have attended Hirshi Ali’s presentation to be educated about the true intent of the ROP. But, then again, if they would have accepted Ali’s rationalization they would have had to stop Muslim immigration immediately, something that will never happen. After all, one’s political career takes precedence even if it means the destruction of this nation.


20 posted on 11/29/2007 11:50:26 AM PST by 353FMG (Hillary - Al Qaeda's Dream)
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