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1 posted on 11/28/2007 2:29:56 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Savage!


2 posted on 11/28/2007 2:30:36 PM PST by SpaceBar
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3 posted on 11/28/2007 2:30:58 PM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: fishtank

The gauntlet has been thrown down.

Savage is the man.


22 posted on 11/28/2007 3:26:22 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: fishtank

Anti-Cair
In Defense of the Constitution

* * * *
Let there be no doubt that the Council on American-Islamic Relations
is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded
by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the
implementation of Sharia Law in America.

CAIR has proven links to, and was founded by, Islamic Terrorists.
CAIR actively supports terrorists and terrorist-supporting
groups and nations.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/


24 posted on 11/28/2007 3:27:43 PM PST by KeyLargo
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From www.danielpipes.org | Original article available at: www.danielpipes.org/article/394
CAIR: ‘Moderate’ friends of terror

by Daniel Pipes
New York Post
April 22, 2002

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations presents itself as just another civil-rights group. “We are similar to a Muslim NAACP,” says spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. Its public language - about promoting “interest and understanding among the general public with regards to Islam and Muslims in North America” - certainly boosts an image of moderation.

That reputation has permitted CAIR to prosper since its founding in 1994, garnering sizeable donations, invitations to the White House, respectful media citations and a serious hearing by corporations.

In reality, CAIR is something quite different. For starters, it’s on the wrong side in the war on terrorism. One indication came in October 1998, when the group demanded the removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as “the sworn enemy,” finding this depiction “offensive to Muslims.”

The same year, CAIR denied bin Laden’s responsibility for the twin East African embassy bombings. As Hooper saw it, those explosions resulted from some vague “misunderstandings of both sides.” (A New York court, however, blamed bin Laden’s side alone for the embassy blasts.)

In 2001, CAIR denied his culpability for the Sept. 11 massacre, saying only that “if [note the “if”] Osama bin Laden was behind it, we condemn him by name.” (Only in December was CAIR finally embarrassed into acknowledging his role.)

Siraj Wahhaj, unindicted and on CAIR’s advisory board.

CAIR consistently defends other militant Islamic terrorists too. The conviction of the perpetrators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing it deemed “a travesty of justice.” The conviction of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh who planned to blow up New York City landmarks, it called a “hate crime.” The extradition order for suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Abu Marook it labeled “anti-Islamic” and “anti-American.”

Not surprisingly, CAIR also backs those who finance terrorism. When President Bush closed the Holy Land Foundation in December for collecting money he said was “used to support the Hamas terror organization,” CAIR decried his action as “unjust” and “disturbing.”

CAIR even includes at least one person associated with terrorism in its own ranks. On Feb. 2, 1995, U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White named Siraj Wahhaj as one of the “unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators” in the attempt to blow up New York City monuments. Yet CAIR deems him “one of the most respected Muslim leaders in America” and includes him on its advisory board.

For these and other reasons, the FBI’s former chief of counterterrorism, Steven Pomerantz, concludes that “CAIR, its leaders and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups.”

Nor is terrorism the only disturbing aspect of CAIR’s record. Other problems include:

Intimidating moderate Muslims. In at least two cases (Hisham Kabbani and Khalid Durán), CAIR has defamed moderate Muslims who reject its extremist agenda, leading to death threats against them.

Embracing murderers. CAIR responded to the arrest and conviction of Jamil Al-Amin (the former H. Rap Brown) by praising him, raising funds for him and then denying his guilt after his conviction for the murder of an Atlanta policeman. Likewise with Ahmad Adnan Chaudhry of San Bernardino, Calif.: Disregarding his conviction for attempting murder, CAIR declared him “innocent” and set up a defense fund for him.

Promoting anti-Semitism. The head of CAIR’s Los Angeles office, Hussam Ayloush, routinely uses the term “zionazi” when referring to Israelis. CAIR co-hosted an event in May 1998 at which an Egyptian militant Islamic leader, Wagdi Ghunaym, called Jews the “descendants of the apes.”

Omar Ahmad, founding chairman of CAIR.

Aggressive ambitions. As reported by the San Ramon Valley Herald, CAIR Chairman Omar M. Ahmad told a crowd of California Muslims in July 1998, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”

CAIR’s real record is one of extremism. North American Muslims themselves are beginning to discover - and the government, leading media, churches, and businesses should follow - that CAIR represents not the noble civilization of Islam but an aggressive and radical strain similar to that which led to the suicide hijackings last September. CAIR must be shunned as a fringe group by responsible institutions and individuals throughout North America.


Apr. 22, 2002 update: For my “CAIR package” - continuously updated information on North America’s leading Islamist organization - see “Getting to Know the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).” It currently has four parts:

1. A brief 2003 introduction to the topic, “CAIR: ‘Moderate’ friends of terror.”
2. A long 2006 study, “CAIR: Islamists Fooling the Establishment.”
3. A bibliography of CAIR.
4. My reply to CAIR’s attack on me.

Apr. 29. 2003 update: For more about the Omar Ahmed quote, see my weblog entry, “CAIR and the San Ramon Valley Herald.”


From www.danielpipes.org | Original article available at: www.danielpipes.org/article/394


25 posted on 11/28/2007 3:29:21 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: fishtank; SpaceBar; Tamar1973; All
I'm not a big fan of Savage. not so much because of his views; I just don't always like the delivery

But when he's under attack, I'm here.

When fellow FReepers were spamming the Savage thread after his MoonBeam donation, I was here, on this thread, in his defense.

I've already fired off an email to OfficeMax and will be donating what I can afford in his forthcoming lawsuit.

We do not yet live under sharia law. Chicago's WIND switched to basketball, but I did hear the poem.

I will not go gently into that "Good Night."

129 posted on 11/28/2007 5:49:37 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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