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To: dschapin; 2ndDivisionVet; ejonesie22

You are spreading LIES about Fred Thompson. I told you on another thread that it was TOMMY Thompson, not FRED Thompson, who supported Dole’s watering down of the abortion plank in the Republican platform. I also pointed out that Fred voted for the federal Defense of Marriage Act. Both are issues of public record. You are knowingly telling LIES.

Is LYING a social conservative value as far as you are concerned? If you have reasons for not liking Fred, that’s fine, but stop purposely confusing him with others and LYING about his record.


167 posted on 11/28/2007 4:14:52 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (Go Navy, Beat Army!)
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To: LadyNavyVet

You are wrong on your statements there. Fred Thompson was quoted as saying that the Platform was basically useless when Dole was planning on getting rid of the pro-life plank. Thompson clearly stated that he opposed the federal marriage amendment when he went on Meet the Press. So, no I am not lying - you need to check your facts.


184 posted on 11/28/2007 7:30:42 PM PST by dschapin
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To: LadyNavyVet

Since you directly accused me of lying here are the links to back up my statements.

First, here is a link to a David Brody Article which quotes several of Fred’s 1996 statements about the Republican Platform. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/192754.aspx. Here are two of Fred’s statements about the Republican Platform which are discussed in the article. First, “It’s the most useless device I’ve ever heard of.” Second, “Does Anyone Remember What Was In The Last [platform] , Except Abortion? … If We Get Caught Up In Having A Platform Debate And Stuff Like That, We Deserve To Lose.”

Second, here is what Fred Thompson said on Meet the Press about the Federal Marriage Amendment - basically he supports an amendment which would prevent judges from imposing Gay Marriage but he opposes the federal marriage amendment as drafted which would define marriage as being only between a man and woman. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21623208/page/4/

“MR. RUSSERT: And also with gay marriage, according to the Associated Press: “Thompson favors a constitutional amendment that bars judges from legalizing gay marriage, but also leaves open the door for state legislatures to approve the practice.” So if a state said, “We want to have gay marriages in our state,” you would be OK with that?

MR. THOMPSON: Yes. This, this, this—the—marriage is between a man and a woman. Nobody ever thought that that was contested until recently, and we’ve had a couple judges in a couple states decide to turn all that on its head. So we’ve, we’ve had, again, a judge-created problem. I would support a constitutional amendment that addresses this judge-created problem. But at the end of—and, and say judges can’t do that. But, at the end of the day, if a state legislature and a governor decide that that’s what they want to do, yes, they should have, they, they should have the freedom to do what Fred Thompson thinks is a very bad idea.”

Now, that I have posted links to back up my claims will you apologize for calling me a liar?


187 posted on 11/28/2007 7:47:26 PM PST by dschapin
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