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Reports: Sudan arrests UK teacher for teddy bear blasphemy ("Insulted Islam")
CNN ^ | 27 Nov 07 | none listed

Posted on 11/27/2007 3:02:28 PM PST by SkyPilot

(CNN) -- Sudan has arrested a British teacher for insulting faith and religion, the British Foreign Office said Monday.

Numerous media reports say Gibbons was arrested after allowing her class of 7-year-olds to name a teddy bear "Mohammed."

That could be seen as an insult to the Prophet Mohammed, the reports said.

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To: G8 Diplomat

All kidding aside, I have a hard time believing that Muslims would truly consider a teddy bear “unclean.” (Yes, the bear is a carnivore but nobody thinks of their teddy bear as one who would eat them.)

There are many men named “Mohammed” so surely they can’t be thinking of hubris either.


41 posted on 11/27/2007 7:42:36 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack
There are many men named “Mohammed”

Most common name in the world.
42 posted on 11/27/2007 7:47:37 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat; SkyPilot
A. Perhaps it’s a metaphor...things in the Bible are metaphors, maybe same goes for the Torah (I’m not an expert)
B. It was written centuries ago, when stonings and such were not uncommon
C. The Jews, unlike the Muslims, have moved on from the 7th century and don’t stick to nearly as many archaeic practices (i.e. beheadings, lashings...”justice” in Saudi Arabia, for example), and if you comapre Judaism to Islam on a whole, Islam is responsible for far more deaths and barbaric practices

Again, I'm not defending Islam, but remember that there was about as much time from Moses to Jesus as Islam has been around.

I think views on Genesis 22 come into play here. Child sacrifice was common among the Semetic people, and perhaps the story of the near sacrifice of Isaac was meant to convey that the God of the Jews didn't condone the practice--by halting the sacrifice and providing the ram, it graphically illustrated the change to animals only. Or perhaps you have the view that God was testing Abraham by seeing if he'd follow an abhorrent command.

I bring this up because I think it all plays into the idea of whether one should change beliefs and actions with the times ("...have moved on..." "...archaic practices..." etc.) or would follow what God says, regardless of the times. Was God's command barbaric? Were those who followed it "barbaric"? If God ordered it today, would following it be "barbaric"...or "holy"?

43 posted on 11/27/2007 7:50:24 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: SkyPilot

“Fahd is a Saudi. But - he is rich and powerful.”

And he also died over 2 years ago.


44 posted on 11/27/2007 7:58:40 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SkyPilot

Work in a nation of savages, expect to get savaged.


45 posted on 11/27/2007 8:05:39 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: SkyPilot

I hope I see the day when these Islamic thugs get their faces pounded so deep in the dirt they’ll regret ever hearing the name Mo Ham Mud.


46 posted on 11/27/2007 8:06:03 PM PST by stboz
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To: SkyPilot

God bless you for your Christian attitude.

Taunting may not work for them, but it sure works for me..


47 posted on 11/27/2007 10:24:18 PM PST by Wil H
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To: SkyPilot

King Fahd is pushing daisies, or cacti, actually.. Been dead at least a year or two...


48 posted on 11/27/2007 10:29:35 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Morgana

Oh she should have put boxing gloves and shorts on it and claimed she meant The Greatest (Muhammmad Ali).....


49 posted on 11/27/2007 10:31:29 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: SkyPilot

These muslims are delusional. Yet now, I see so many muslims getting TV time...


50 posted on 11/27/2007 11:44:15 PM PST by TheThinker
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To: SkyPilot

The only thing innocent in this story is the teddy bear.The techer has to be a liberal so that makes her guilty and I could care less what happens to her.


51 posted on 11/27/2007 11:46:49 PM PST by Brandie (Vote for a Conservative! Islam is a Death Cult, is that simple enough to understand!)
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To: Brandie
The techer has to be a liberal so that makes her guilty

Why, and why?

52 posted on 11/28/2007 12:11:53 AM PST by Winniesboy (Caution: Occam's razor carelessly applied can cut your own throat.)
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To: Winniesboy
Because Islam is the enemy, thus Mohammed is as well. I suggest you read about Mohammed and what he was. Be ready to be shocked and disgusted when you do. To name or allow a childrens toy to be named Mohammed is very much a kiss up to Islam thing only a liberal would do or allow.

By giving that name ( Mohammed) to a teddy bear something that is known for being a good thing, it lessens the vile thing that Islam is about. Islam is a death cult and there is no way a person should make it anything else.

53 posted on 11/28/2007 12:26:47 AM PST by Brandie (Vote for a Conservative! Islam is a Death Cult, is that simple enough to understand!)
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To: Brandie
The only thing innocent in this story is the teddy bear.The techer has to be a liberal so that makes her guilty and I could care less what happens to her.

You don't know her and neither do I but part of me says she was a fool of the highest proportions to go over their and take a job while the other half of me is having my blood boiled and my pulse racing because of this evil Islamic punishment over something so pathetic.

She may well probably be a liberal but here in the UK she has the right to stand up and spout her pathetic liberal muck without being caned for it, mocked and jeered at, yes by all means and also taking the consequences of her own actions.

I'm certainly not going to get into a religious discussion here with anyone under any circumstances but suffice to say if I can get upset about a liberal being subjected to something as barbaric as this then I must be a man of mercy and good will, good day to you!

54 posted on 11/28/2007 1:50:02 AM PST by snowman_returns (The Stone Roses - best band the world ever saw!!)
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To: Brandie

Hmm. I have known able teachers with strong vocations (yes, they do have them)who choose to work abroad in hostile environments. None of them are liberals, and all have my great respect. I see nothing in the details of this story to suggest this unfortunate lady isn’t one such as these. Her only failing was a certain naivete in not anticipating at least some problems from the ‘teddy naming’ project. There’s nothing at all here to suggest she’s a liberal, still less that someone who’s obviously a good person ‘deserves’ such appalling treatment.


55 posted on 11/28/2007 1:50:34 AM PST by Winniesboy (Caution: Occam's razor carelessly applied can cut your own throat.)
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To: SkyPilot

Islam is a man-made cult, dressed in the robes of “religion”.


56 posted on 11/28/2007 4:10:14 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Gondring
You're post was very cordial and honest - and I thank you for it.

The God of the Torah is the God of the New Testament - although sometimes it appears striking to me that the God of such mercy is also the God of judgment and holiness.

But God is holy. He can be nothing less.

Yes - the Old Testament does seem harsh in many ways. You know how many Laws of the Torah there are? 613

That's a lot of laws. Furhtermore, the Pharisees atomized God's law even further. It was so hard to live up to that Christ chastised them:

The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice. They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by men; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi by men. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven." (Matthew 23:2-9

But, Christ said he didn't come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

That is the essence of God's love. A chasm separates us from a holy God. We can't get there. Ever. But, in His mercy He provided a way.

Sometimes, I wonder if I am the only one who falls. Am I the only one "messed up?"

No. We all fall. But Christ picks me up again. He forgave me. And through Him - the Law is fulfilled and God accepts me.

We don't live under the law of the Torah anymore. We live in the age of Grace.

But someday, perhaps soon - that door is going to close.

Parable of the Ten Virgins

Don't be left outside.

Take care - and thanks.

57 posted on 11/28/2007 5:15:21 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

In this case, it’s Sudan who arrested a UK teacher for insulting Islam. It won’t be too long before teachers IN THE UK will be subject to arrest on the same charge.


58 posted on 11/28/2007 8:27:54 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I would say it is more an insult to teddy bears.
LOL!
59 posted on 11/28/2007 8:29:27 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Gondring
“Not that I’m supporting Islam, but I’m curious if you would say the same about a religion that would stone a man for collecting sticks (firewood) on the Sabbath.”

lol... because we all know how often those crazy Jews stone people, even non Jews, for collecting firewood on the Sabbath. </sarcasm

Honestly, you don’t see a difference? You think your analogy holds any water what so ever? If so, you are either anti Semitic, or Islamic, which is pretty much the same thing.

60 posted on 11/28/2007 8:32:05 AM PST by monday
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