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Christian leaders ask for Muslim forgiveness
Kaleej Times via Jihad Watch ^ | Nov 26 2007

Posted on 11/26/2007 7:49:41 PM PST by camerakid400

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To: camerakid400

Great. Roll over, expose our jugular and let the muzzies know they win; the wusses have finally given up.

Not this one.


201 posted on 12/01/2007 7:27:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MAexile

You and me both. Those early Crusaders knew what they were up against. I wish I could say the same about our leaders.


202 posted on 12/01/2007 7:29:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WKB

I’d be for this, if they didn’t want to kill us all.

There is a Heavenly war taking place.


203 posted on 12/01/2007 9:31:42 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: metmom
You know, the longer the War on Terror goes on the more I believe the Crusades were not only a good idea, but should have been carried through to completion.

"You and me both. Those early Crusaders knew what they were up against. I wish I could say the same about our leaders.

All in favour of genocide please raise your hand.

Well looky here, metmom has both hands up. Jeeze metmom, I thought you hated proponents of Evilution because their 'belief system' supposedly gave rise to the Nazi holocaust. Is this a wish for another holocaust perpetrated by loving Christians? Can a fervent desire for eugenics be far behind?

Can you say 'bigoted hate monger'? I knew you could.

204 posted on 12/02/2007 4:58:54 PM PST by b_sharp ("Science without intelligence is lame, religion without personal integrity is reprehensible"-Sealion)
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To: camerakid400

We now have a roll-call of idiots.


205 posted on 12/02/2007 4:59:29 PM PST by MHT
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To: b_sharp; MAexile

You forgot to courtesy ping MAexile after posting his comment in your reply. That’s a big transgression in evoland. Shame on you.

Nice try at character assassination but the Crusades eliminating the followers of a deranged, pedophile, warlord is not genocide. Nobody is killing them because of their race; it’s simply self-defense.

In case you aren’t aware, their whole mission is to destroy us. What rock have you been living under?

What else do you do to a rabid animal that’s trying to kill you?


206 posted on 12/02/2007 7:16:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; MAexile
"You forgot to courtesy ping MAexile after posting his comment in your reply. That’s a big transgression in evoland. Shame on you.

You are right, my apologies to MAexile.

"Nice try at character assassination but the Crusades eliminating the followers of a deranged, pedophile, warlord is not genocide. Nobody is killing them because of their race; it’s simply self-defense.

Nice rationalization but it doesn't wash. You are advocating the elimination of an entire group of people. That is genocide. There is no justification for wiping out an entire group based on the actions of a few.

"In case you aren’t aware, their whole mission is to destroy us. What rock have you been living under?

Nonsense. You are advocating in your comments above that all Muslims should have been wiped out, whether or not they were active participants in the battles of the crusades. This is a vile suggestion. This kind of logic suggests that we should wipe out entire populations based on their potential impact on future generations. Perhaps the US should wipe out Canada, man woman and child, because at one time they invaded the US and burned a few DC buildings and God knows they could repeat the act.

"What else do you do to a rabid animal that’s trying to kill you?

You kill the animal, you don't go on a jihad and destroy the entire population.

207 posted on 12/02/2007 7:57:42 PM PST by b_sharp ("Science without intelligence is lame, religion without personal integrity is reprehensible"-Sealion)
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To: ckilmer
Every liberal protestant church in America is losing its congregation.

Yes, they are. Sad thing is, many who are leaving aren't doing so because they are staunchly biblical Christians, but because they are just looking for something to make them feel good, and those churches don't cut it any more.

208 posted on 12/03/2007 6:34:04 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: camerakid400
Insane

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

209 posted on 12/03/2007 6:41:56 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: b_sharp
You are advocating in your comments above that all Muslims should have been wiped out, whether or not they were active participants in the battles of the crusades.

No, I'm not. You're reading way more into it than was meant.

There is no justification for wiping out an entire group based on the actions of a few.

For one thing, it's not the actions of a few; it's many who participate in this. For another, their whole *religion* (and I use the term loosely) demands the elimination of the infidels. It's required of all of them. So where is the condemnation of those few by the many if they didn't really support them?

You kill the animal, you don't go on a jihad and destroy the entire population.

Which is what they are trying to do to us. We need to eliminate as much of the threat as necessary.

You know, if you don't support our troops mission of putting an end to jihad and the islamic threat for our own safety, and the safety of the civilization of the entire planet, perhaps FR isn't quite the place for you. There have certainly got to be other places that support islam and jihad on the internet.

210 posted on 12/03/2007 10:00:25 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: b_sharp
You are right, my apologies to MAexile.

Just to make a point, I will accept your apology, and not call you an infidel and then cut your head off.

211 posted on 12/03/2007 12:01:26 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: MEGoody

Every liberal protestant church in America is losing its congregation.

Yes, they are. Sad thing is, many who are leaving aren’t doing so because they are staunchly biblical Christians, but because they are just looking for something to make them feel good, and those churches don’t cut it any more.
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Once again you are confused.

I did a study on this for the PCUSA. In 2006 they lost 48,000 members. 35,000 of those were single women. Likely they were young single women because old women are the last to leave. Why not young men? Having grown up in the PCUSA I have some insight into this question. The young men don’t come to church in the first place because they can see the mutual contempt the pastors and the men in the congregation have for each other. There’s a lot of “feel bad” wrapped up in this business that has nothing to do with God. And you are seriously fooling yourself if you think otherwise.


212 posted on 12/03/2007 2:10:06 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Abigail Adams

Bookmark for later.


213 posted on 12/03/2007 2:17:11 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: ckilmer
There’s a lot of “feel bad” wrapped up in this business that has nothing to do with God.

Okay, but you said the young men didn't go at all. How does this fit with your previous statement that the attendance at liberal churches is declining?

I certainly may be confused, but it may have something to do with your delivery. ;)

214 posted on 12/03/2007 2:18:52 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: b_sharp
All in favour of genocide please raise your hand.

It's not genocide. It's "cleansing".

215 posted on 12/03/2007 2:31:01 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: b_sharp; metmom
"All in favour of genocide please raise your hand."

The crusades were not genocide; they were the righteous and proper answer to the most brutal terrorism that the world has ever known.

"Can you say 'bigoted hate monger'?"

That is the best description of you and every other Christ hater that I have ever seen.

216 posted on 12/03/2007 2:32:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: paudio; camerakid400
"Eh, how about the Muslims asking forgiveness from the Christians for taking over Egypt, Ethiopia, Andalusia (although later returned to the Christians), and of course, Constantinople, the second Rome?"

It doesn't strike us because we think of Northern Africa, the Middle east, Western Asia, etc. as almost "aboriginally" Muslim cultures. Not so. There were thriving Christian and Jewish communities from Chaldea to Castile. Norethern Africa alone at one time had 200 Catholic dioceses. When the Muslims took them over, they were taking over 2/3 of Christendom.

Interesting and grim history here by Bat Ye'or: The Decline of Eastern Christianity: From Jihad to Dhimmitude (1996), and The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam (1985).

The Crusades weren't any more "aggressive" than the landing of the Allies at Normandy.

217 posted on 12/03/2007 2:54:03 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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To: metmom
Two corrections for clarity:

You're reading way more into it than was meant said.

You know, if you don't support our troops mission of putting an end to jihad and the islamic threat for our own safety survival, and the safety survival of the civilization of the entire planet,...

218 posted on 12/03/2007 2:58:18 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MEGoody

There’s a lot of “feel bad” wrapped up in this business that has nothing to do with God.

Okay, but you said the young men didn’t go at all. How does this fit with your previous statement that the attendance at liberal churches is declining?
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No contradiction. You’re just trying too hard. Think about it.


219 posted on 12/03/2007 4:20:36 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
No contradiction.

So because the young men don't go to church at all, the attendance at liberal churches has fallen.

Um, okay, got it. :::Rolls eyes:::

Have a nice day.

220 posted on 12/04/2007 9:26:51 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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