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Giuliani's business ties create challenge (Chinese organized crime)
Chicago Tribune ^ | November 21, 2007 | Andrew Zajac and Evan Osnos

Posted on 11/26/2007 12:04:27 PM PST by calcowgirl

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To: calcowgirl; BOBTHENAILER; Lazamataz
Wull... Ho Ho Ho, Merra Crismus Everabuddy!!! (burp!)

Sayme ta yew, their BLOBDANAYLER!!! (hick!) Wur is that crazy Lastmutazi, these daze, anawaze???

21 posted on 11/26/2007 2:50:39 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl
Wull... Ho Ho Ho, Merra Crismus Everabuddy!!! (burp!)

Don't mind the Waspman, he's been a hittin' the stingers to hard today.

22 posted on 11/26/2007 3:04:14 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

I’m GRIEVING over what happened ta my investitures taday!!! Have yew gotnee booze ovur atchur howse taday??? Mine’s awl gon!!!


23 posted on 11/26/2007 3:17:18 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER
Here ya go, Waspman. Have an ale, on me!

Don't say I nevva did nuttin' for ya!


24 posted on 11/26/2007 3:42:12 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SierraWasp
Have yew gotnee booze ovur atchur howse taday??? Mine’s awl gon!!!

Fresh outta booze, but I got sumpin' better, an don you go a tellin' any o these wild eyed FReepers. It's called SHINE, jack, thas raght, Kaintucky Kewl-aid, Ethanol fer shur, Jethro. I was a in mah back yahd just a shootin' at some jews, an ah hit a silver tank in the kohpohrate owned 40 next door. It sprung a leak an now ah gots me hunnerts a gallons of de stuff. Whooooeeee.

Now ah don cair tha mah CITI just dumped 30% and mah boy lil Robbie Rubin ain't no golden boy no more, nahsirrr.

25 posted on 11/26/2007 4:02:55 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp

BWAAAAaaaahahahahaha. Ya stung ‘im cowgirl.


26 posted on 11/26/2007 4:06:37 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Geez... I hope I didn’t hurt him! ;-)


27 posted on 11/26/2007 5:13:42 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; BOBTHENAILER

Yew cain’t hurt me!!! I bees unconscious!!! I’ll take a stein a that stinger stuff, if yew please... Thank ya vera mush... (vituperous belch!!!)


28 posted on 11/26/2007 7:35:00 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

WOW — great find. Does this now make two separate Giuliani Partners engagements so far linked to organized crime figures (in addition to Giuliani’s link through the alleged mob ties of Kerik and others he appointed/hired)?? In addition, the gambling industry overwhelmingly has donated to Giuliani above any other donk or pubbie presidential candidate. Shady, to say the least.

If Giuliani has nothing to hide, then let him disclose the client lists of his various companies. His flack now says he can’t do so because his clients require confidentiality. However, previous reports say that it’s the other way around — it’s Giuliani Partners itself that required its clients to sign confidentiality agreements (one report on this is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201270.html)


29 posted on 11/26/2007 9:39:05 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: calcowgirl; All

How in the world can a presidential candidate who is still involved with the firm he established not disclose basic details the clients with whom he works??? The conflict of interest and national security issues here are staggering, even if all these suggestively shady stories turn out to have a perfectly innocent explanation.

More, from the Wall Street Journal (just consolidating this on this thread — I think it’s also elsewhere on FR):

Rudy Giuliani is one of the few candidates ever to pursue the White House while maintaining a high-ranking role in a private-sector firm.

But since he became a candidate for president, the Republican front-runner has rebuffed all calls to disclose details about the clients and dealings of Giuliani Partners, the consulting firm he founded in 2002.

Some of those clients have controversial records. Among those he hasn’t disclosed is the government of Qatar, a Persian Gulf state to whom the firm provided security advice, according to the former U.S. ambassador there. Qatar is a strategic U.S. military ally and energy supplier, yet also a country that has been criticized for its conduct toward al Qaeda — a potential political pitfall for a candidate pitching himself as an uncompromising foe of Islamic terrorism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119440640166884884.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us


30 posted on 11/26/2007 9:46:49 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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Does this now make two separate Giuliani Partners engagements so far linked to organized crime figures (in addition to Giuliani’s link through the alleged mob ties of Kerik and others he appointed/hired)??

Honestly, I'm having trouble keeping them all straight. Last week it was Frank Fertitta. Now these Macau folks. I saw the thread on contributions from gambling interests--1/2 of those were from the Station Casinos bunch (Fertitta). The numbers were pretty small (total of $180K out of $50 million in contributions--not too staggering, IMO).

Thanks for adding that stuff to the thread. Reminders are good and I often learn new stuff. :-)

31 posted on 11/26/2007 9:56:23 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Yes, the “portion thereof” is what makes FR fun. Throw in a missing letter, blown comma, and you got complete pandemonium.
32 posted on 11/26/2007 9:59:41 PM PST by Professional
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To: calcowgirl

Thank YOU for keeping your eye on this ball and tracking down all this info. Again, it’s Clintonian — when you’re linked to so many widespread scandals, it makes it difficult to sort out the details and focus on any one of them.

I cannot understand how even GOP-ers who like Giuliani are willing to submerge the presidency in the steaming corrupt cesspool that surrounds him.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 10:01:04 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery; Liz; Calpernia
Observation: Behind every one of Giuliani's "consultant" deals, there seems to be a stock pumping phenomena.

From Barron's, Nov 19, 2007:

A Macau joint venture, MGM Grand Macau, opens Dec. 18, and MGM will develop three hotels in Abu Dhabi that will earn revenue on properties wholly owned (and risks fully borne) by the government there. Its stock, near 87 today, has downside support at 84, given a Dubai state-owned investment group's agreement to buy up to 28 million shares at that price (as the two jointly develop the 76-acre CityCenter in Vegas).

Yet MGM shares trade at just 31 times 2008 earnings, compared to 48 times for LVS and 40 times for Wynn. That discount persists even though MGM earned more than the other two combined in 2006.

Don't believe that's a sign of a Macau bubble? Then look at Melco PBL Entertainment (MPEL), a casino developer that lost money in 2006 and 2007 but recently opened Crown Macau and is planning the heavily touted "City of Dreams" in 2009. Billed, correctly, as a "pure play on Macau," Melco's Nasdaq-listed American depositary shares fetch 164 times 2008 earnings.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 10:37:31 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Founding Father; Calpernia; milford421; LibertyRocks

Ping.


35 posted on 11/27/2007 1:24:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: calcowgirl
MINDING HIS BUSINESS; RUDY FIRM'S TIES CASTING SHADOW OVER CAMPAIGN (tainted ties. shady, murky biz)

EXCERPT By BRENDAN SCOTT, NY POST November 11, 2007

When Rudy Giuliani walked out of City Hall six years ago, he had $2 million in the bank and the moniker "America's mayor" on his résumé. Then came the book deals, the speaking tours and the partnership at a powerful Washington lobbying house. None, however, would prove more lucrative than the small consulting firm Giuliani and a dozen of his most trusted aides founded in 2002 in an angular glass tower at 5 Times Square. Most of the firm's top executives were in the mayor's "kitchen cabinet," including Bernard Kerik, his former police chief; Michael Hess, who served as the city's top lawyer; Anthony Carbonetti, chief of staff from '99-'01; Daniel Connolly, special counsel to the city's Law Department from '97-'01; Thomas Von Essen, former FDNY commissioner; and Dennison Young Jr., chief counsel during Giuliani's eight years as mayor.

Since its startup in 2002, Giuliani Partners has formed several subsidiaries, including an investment bank called Giuliani Capital Advisors - since sold - Giuliani Compliance Japan and security companies called Giuliani-Kerik and Giuliani Security & Safety, which replaced Giuliani-Kerik and Giuliani Security & Safety Asia. By the time Giuliani declared his run for president last spring, his namesake firm had grossed an estimated $100 million. The ex-mayor himself was worth of as much as $66 million.

But on the campaign trail he has been fending off questions about the shady clients, disgraced employees and murky business decisions. Nobody has been more problematic than Kerik, who rose from a job as Giuliani's driver during his 1993 mayoral campaign to head of the city's Correction Department and finally police commissioner. At Giuliani Partners, Kerik headed an affiliated security-consulting company. Controversy erupted after Giuliani recommended Kerik to President Bush, who nominated him be Homeland Security chief in 2004. Kerik abruptly withdrew his name, blaming tax issues involving a nanny, but reports soon surfaced about stock-option windfalls, connections with people suspected of dealing with the mob and extramarital affairs.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11112007/news/nationalnews/minding_his_business_639428.htm?page=0

36 posted on 11/27/2007 4:30:34 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Calpernia

ping to me for tonight.


37 posted on 11/27/2007 4:33:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ellery

And another troll posts yet another Mary Jacoby article against Giuliani.

Mary Jacoby is the wife of Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS and Fusion as we now know was central to the seeding of the fake Steele Dossier used by the coup plotters against Trump.


38 posted on 12/06/2019 11:05:19 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Fedora

ping to an old one.


39 posted on 10/25/2020 3:13:49 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
Stanley Ho was an associate of the Luen Kung Lok Triads who was descended from an agent of the Sassoon family, which controlled three-quarters of China's opium trade in the late 19th century. His partner Yip Hon was implicated in narcotics trafficking in San Francisco and New York in 1980, and he was a high roller in Las Vegas. Ho's casinos were used for money-laundering, loan sharking, prostitution, and narcotics trafficking by various organized crime groups.
40 posted on 10/25/2020 7:45:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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