Make your case. I said that the no-fault option is a woman oriented thing, and women make out with it, usually at the expense of the man. One does not take counsel for the continuance of a program from those who are enlarged by the program.
Show me wrong with actual data.
It’s simply a pendulum swung to far on a good idea. And yes, you do sound like someone who got bitch-slapped in a NFD.
I remember the ‘bad’ ole days before NFD, when bad things were ignored because folks knew they could get away with it. The. ‘shame’ of divorce was too great. When lots of nasty things got swept under the rug to keep up appearances. No one wanted to go through an ugly public, name calling divorce.
My father got custody of my half-sister in his divorce— because he had that much clout, and his first wife just didn’t want to go through the hell the man could dish out.
My Mom didn’t divorce him because she really believed he’d get custody of all of us. His first divorce was legend.
So yeah, maybe 50 years ago, divorce was more on the mans side, maybe now it’s more on the womans.
The goal should be to just make it fair and civil for all sides.
Anyhow, the premise is good and I’d hate to see it go back to the horror it was before.
The only men I know who actually ~sought~ full custody deserved it and got it. Men don't usually seek custody, most wouldn't trade places with the mother for all the money in the world, which is why they usually see the real downside of divorce as financial.
In most circumstances, neither parent should be awarded custody, they're both still parents with rights, and responsibilities.
Make your case. I said that the no-fault option is a woman oriented thing, and women make out with it, usually at the expense of the man. One does not take counsel for the continuance of a program from those who are enlarged by the program.
Show me wrong with actual data.
I missed the beginning of this conversation - have you provided "actual data" to support your assertion?
The fact that she's (presumably) a woman has nothing to do with it - some people are capable, after all, of putting what's right before their own potential personal and fincancial interests. I'd wager most people on this site can - it's one of the things that defines a conservative, after all.
Good grief man, do you not understand the original reason for the concept of the no-fault divorce laws?????
Men always had the upper hand in divorces and custody because they controlle the money. What a woman had to go through to get a divorce, let alone custody or support of any sort was utterly horrendous.
I'm no femininazi, and actually despise those type, but for crying out loud you can't actually believe that women got a fair shake in divorce.