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To: NormsRevenge
Radical conservative Nehring supporters blame President Bush's immigration plan for the financial shortfall. Bad news for them, most major California Republican donors also supported the Bush plan. These are called "Good Government" Republicans. Those who try to blame these guys for the financial aftermath of the Nehring disaster apparently aren’t aware that the blame lies firmly on Nehring’s shoulders and the man behind him, Washington D.C.’s Grover Norquist, an arch-conservative activist closely associated with criminal convict lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

The above paragraph has me totally confused. Is he saying the Bush plan is the OBL/Amnesty/Comp Immig Reform? And that supporters of Amnesty are the "good government" folks? And that Nehring/Norquist oppose the Bush plan?

6 posted on 11/26/2007 9:42:49 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
The CAGOP big donors seem to be Open Borders RINOs. Its the Little People who have stopped contributing since the party has no interest in advancing conservatism, which the leadership perceives to be a loser in a Blue State. Its a self fulfilling prophecy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 11/26/2007 9:47:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

Norquist is probably the most influential advocate for open borders in the country.


9 posted on 11/26/2007 9:49:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals??)
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To: calcowgirl

Maybe if one flowcharts it, it’ll be more easily determined ‘what the heck?’ , only way to keep track of who is the blamer and who is the blamees.., lol

Radical conservative Nehring supporters blame President Bush’s immigration plan for the financial shortfall.

Bad news for them, most major California Republican donors also supported the Bush plan.

These are called “Good Government” Republicans.

Those who try to blame these guys for the financial aftermath of the Nehring disaster apparently aren’t aware that the blame lies firmly on Nehring’s shoulders and the man behind him, Washington D.C.’s Grover Norquist, an arch-conservative activist closely associated with criminal convict lobbyist Jack Abramoff.


10 posted on 11/26/2007 9:49:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: calcowgirl

The old saying is, “As California goes, so goes the country.” Personally, I think there’s some truth in that.

And so, if the people themselves don’t do something soon to change things radically in the party nationally, it’s not an encouraging picture.


13 posted on 11/26/2007 9:53:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals??)
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To: calcowgirl

As you suggest, it’s certainly true that the California Republican party is in deep trouble. But this article seems confused about the reasons.

No mention whatever of Gerald Parsky, I notice.

To this outsider, the basic problem with the California Republican Party is that it is split down the middle between the voters, who are mostly conservative, and the party pros and big donors, who are mostly Country Clubbers and Big Tent people. The party cannot regain its health unless these two factions agree to make up their differences and work together again. But that seems unlikely at the moment.

Bush, Rove, and Parsky came in and put the Country Clubbers in charge of the party. We have seen what the results of that have been. As head of the party, Parsky refused to help Bill Simon, and never did any money raising for him. Bush and Rove were in a snit because the party voters had voted 2-1 in the primary for Simon over ueberleftist Richard Riordan, their chosen candidate.

Arnold has betrayed both the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives. So the base is disgusted. He won the reelection, but only by refusing to help any of his fellow Republican candidates, who all lost. When he leaves office because of term limits, he leaves a party divided worse than ever.

Unless the money people agree to accept some basic conservative principles, the Democrats will take over the whole state government and the Republicans will be out of it until the Democrats have become so corrupt, and made such a mess, that the people may finally vote them out. But it doesn’t look good for the conservative cause if the Country Clubbers continue to refuse to give up their pet agenda, which involves abortion, perversion, and uncontrolled state spending.


14 posted on 11/26/2007 9:56:53 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: calcowgirl
the blame lies firmly on Nehring’s shoulders and the man behind him, Washington D.C.’s Grover Norquist, an arch-conservative activist closely associated with criminal convict lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Looks like the author is blaming Norquist who was behind Nehring. Norquist is involved in many state policies, unfortunately. He is the architect of the Bush Amnesty.

22 posted on 11/26/2007 11:05:12 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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